Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter

Marcus Ihlar <marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com> Mon, 27 January 2020 15:28 UTC

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From: Marcus Ihlar <marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com>
To: "lars@eggert.org" <lars@eggert.org>, Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Masque <masque-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Lars Eggert
Sent: den 27 januari 2020 15:54
To: Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter

Hi,

On 2020-1-27, at 16:34, Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com> wrote:
> [MK] Only the outer client to proxy connection would be "eliminated".

thanks for clarifying.

So if the concern is for the client-to-proxy part, why does this outer connection need to be QUIC at all? (I think this is also what Marcus described in his reply, i.e., that you could simply run a non-QUIC protocol between the client and proxy on the same five-tuple.)

[MI]  One reason for the client-proxy communication to be QUIC-based is that it would allow for both the double encrypted tunneling and the UDP-forwarding modes. 
Also, it is probably a good idea from both privacy and deployment perspectives that the client-proxy communication isn't easy to distinguish from standard QUIC traffic. 

Marcus