Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Alissa's DISCUSS
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Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Alissa's DISCUSS
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+1 ;-) David Harrington ietfdbh@comcast.net +1-603-828-1401 > -----Original Message----- > From: MIB-DOCTORS [mailto:mib-doctors-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Juergen Schoenwaelder > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:12 AM > To: Benoit Claise > Cc: MIB Doctors (E-mail); 'Alissa Cooper'; sec-ads@tools.ietf.org; Adrian > Farrel > Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Alissa's DISCUSS > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 04:13:08PM +0200, Benoit Claise wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > The email below refers to Alissa's DISCUSS > > See > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eman-energy-monitoring- > mib/ballot/#alissa-cooper > > > > Alissa refers to this sentence in the boilerplate at > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-security > > > > Implementations SHOULD provide the security features described > > by the > > SNMPv3 framework (see [RFC3410]), and implementations claiming > > compliance > > to the SNMPv3 standard MUST include full support for > > authentication and > > privacy via the User-based Security Model (USM) [RFC3414] with > > the AES > > cipher algorithm [RFC3826]. > > > > From the discussion (Dan andBert's feedback, on top of mine) , it seems > > that there are valid reasons to keep a SHOULD here in the generic > > boilerplate. > > > > So what next? > > - Should we justify the reasons in the boiler plate > > - Should we give some freedom in the boilerplate? > > > > Implementations SHOULD provide the security features described > > by the > > SNMPv3 framework (see [RFC3410]), and implementations claiming > > compliance > > to the SNMPv3 standard MUST include full support for > > authentication and > > privacy via the User-based Security Model (USM) [RFC3414] with > > the AES > > cipher algorithm [RFC3826]. > > > > <if there are use cases where a MUST is required, described > > them here> > > > > Now, I hope it will not be abused by Security ADs, requesting a MUST > > for every single MIB module. > > - Something else? > > - Stop writing MIB modules :-) > > > > Do nothing, re-discuss this every other year. ;-) > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > _______________________________________________ > MIB-DOCTORS mailing list > MIB-DOCTORS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mib-doctors
- [MIB-DOCTORS] Fwd: Re: Alissa Cooper's Discuss on… Benoit Claise
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Fwd: Re: Alissa Cooper's Discus… Thomas D. Nadeau
- [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate (was: Fwd: R… Benoit Claise
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate Benoit Claise
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate Stephen Farrell
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Kathle… Benoit Claise
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Kathle… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Kathle… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Alissa… Benoit Claise
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Kathle… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Kathle… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Alissa… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Alissa… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Alissa… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Alissa… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate David Harrington
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Kathle… ietfdbh
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Alissa… ietfdbh
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Alissa… ietfdbh
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Change the boilerplate - Kathle… Kathleen Moriarty