Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing

"Parthasarathi R" <partha@parthasarathi.co.in> Wed, 21 November 2012 15:47 UTC

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From: Parthasarathi R <partha@parthasarathi.co.in>
To: "'Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)'" <mperumal@cisco.com>, 'Hadriel Kaplan' <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>, mmusic@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing
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NO...it is possible that some of the device may prefer to loop back only one
of the stream (audio) and not the other streams (like Video).

Thanks
Partha

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From: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:01 AM
To: Hadriel Kaplan; mmusic@ietf.org (E-mail)
Cc: Gonzalo Camarillo; draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback@tools.ietf.org
Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing

|Please respond to this email by **Tuesday, December 4th** with a "YES" if
the 
|draft should mandate ALL media be looped-back, or "NO" if it should allow a

|hybrid approach of some streams being looped while others are not.

NO.

Muthu

|-----Original Message-----
|From: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Hadriel Kaplan
|Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:46 PM
|To: mmusic@ietf.org (E-mail)
|Cc: Gonzalo Camarillo; draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback@tools.ietf.org
|Subject: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing
|
|Howdy,
|during IESG review of the media-loopback draft, a discussion arose
regarding the language around
|indicating media-loopback support per media description (i.e., per m-line),
in sections 3.1 and 3.2.
|
|My interpretation/understanding was we were requiring ALL m-lines to
indicate media-loopback; in other
|words it's an all-or-nothing in both the offer+answer, and either every
media stream is looped back,
|or none are.  However the text currently doesn't make this clear, and it
could be argued either way,
|with pro's/con's either way too; so I'd like the WG's consensus on whether
it should in fact be an
|all-or-none approach, or not.
|
|Please respond to this email by **Tuesday, December 4th** with a "YES" if
the draft should mandate ALL
|media be looped-back, or "NO" if it should allow a hybrid approach of some
streams being looped while
|others are not.
|
|For reference, the draft is here:
|http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-24
|
|-hadriel
|
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