Re: [MMUSIC] "splitting" a bundle
worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Thu, 25 April 2013 19:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] "splitting" a bundle
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> From: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> > > This has come up in CLUE, and pertains to cases where not all media > processing equipment is at the same address. In such cases bundling may > be supported, but more than one bundle may be required. > > When this happens on the offering end the offerer can propose multiple > bundles from the beginning. But when it is the answerer that needs > things in separate bundles then it will need to "split" (partition) the > offered bundle into multiple bundles. You can view this as a variant of > (1)+(3) below. I've given a little thought to the question of how a new offer may amend the bundling situation created by the previous negotiation. I was considering the extremely general case when nested or hierarchial bundling is allowed, but I think the conclusions are the same even with one-level bundling: 1) It's natural to consider a rule "The new bundling must be compatible with the old bundling", but it is extremely difficult to come up with a definition of "compatible" that makes sense in all cases, or even a definition that can be verified and enforced (unless it is so strict as to be an impediment in practical situations). 2) There is little practical benefit to trying to align the new bundling with the old bundling. The reason for (2) is that after the offer/answer cycle, the endpoint only needs to adjust its multiplexing/demultiplexing mechanism to connect the correct application-level interfaces to the correct transport endpoints. That connection is actually fairly simple and can be driven by a fairly small table that can be extracted directly from the O/A SDP (even in complex cases such as hierarchial bundling using an MMT-style syntax) -- there is no need to minimize the changes from the previous bundling state to the new bundling state. Dale
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- Re: [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] "splitting" a bundle Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] "splitting" a bundle Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Dale R. Worley
- [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Christer Holmberg
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- Re: [MMUSIC] "splitting" a bundle Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] Feedback requested on requirements Christer Holmberg
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