[Mod-discuss] Re: Keith Moore's response to WGLC (was Re: WG Last call for draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-10)

[Rob Sayre <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 4:29 PM Pete Resnick <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On 7 Oct 2025, at 18:16, Rob Sayre wrote:
>
> >
> > This is the precise reason for "14 days" in the document, and why they
> > need not be public in the short term. So, if you go longer than that,
> > you have to report it publicly. But this text applies to chairs as
> > well as moderators. So, it's better, and more restrictive than current
> > documents wrt censorship.
>
> No, you've misunderstood the point (or the "14 days" thing doesn't
> address it). This is not about transparency generally. If a mod team
> member takes an action in a WG, the chair must be notified immediately.
> As Keith said earlier in his message, chairs know the context of the
> group and might choose to take different action than the mod team did in
> the "emergency situation". It should not take 14 days for the chair to
> find out about the action or have an opportunity to change it.
>


Hi,

I would argue the document already has that point.

"Moderators may take actions when administrators do not respond to reports
in a timely fashion. Their first action should generally be to attempt to
contact and advise the relevant administrators."

That seems like the right level of precision here. Do you disagree?

What you can't do is quietly censor someone for more than 14 days (through
a combination of moderators and chairs for more than 14 days).

That seems about right to me.

thanks,
Rob