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[Mod-discuss] Re: Keith Moore's response to WGLC (was Re: WG Last call for draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-10)

Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> Wed, 08 October 2025 20:36 UTC

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Pete,

It doesn't have to be quite so nefarious.  The situation I am concerned 
about is someone starts causing problems across multiple lists, the 
moderators contact the chairs, but the chairs are unavailable.  They 
come back and undo the moderators' work without discussing it, 
triggering continued disruptions.  It's far better to force the 
discussion before someone hits the undo button, so that context is shared.

And yes, this is a ping and a pong, the ping having been the original 
moderator action, the pong being the undo.

Eliot

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