Re: [mpls-tp] poll tomakedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document

["BUSI ITALO" <[e-mail]>]

Nurit,

I have no time allocated for T-MPLS standardization.

As proposed by Huub:

> > We should concentrate on current mode of operation and not waste
> > precious time on history.

Italo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:28 AM
> To: BUSI ITALO; ext Rolf Winter; [e-mail]
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] poll 
> tomakedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document
> 
> Italo, 
> If this is really the case, then I would recommend you to come with
> answers/resolution to the arguments described in the 
> document. This will
> serve the Industry as well. 
> Best regards,
> Nurit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext BUSI ITALO [mailto:[e-mail]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:14 PM
> To: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); ext Rolf Winter;
> [e-mail]
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] poll
> tomakedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document
> 
> The analysis of the T-MPLS case study in
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-mpls-tp-uncoord-harmful is
> technically weak and incorrect.
> 
> I think this draft is a waste of time for the whole community.
> 
> Italo 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] 
> > [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Sprecher, 
> > Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:50 AM
> > To: ext Rolf Winter; [e-mail]
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] poll 
> > tomakedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document
> > 
> > Hi,
> > Surprisingly, although it should be trivial, it was not 
> > trivial for the
> > case study, T-MPLS. This is a fact. That is why it is extremely
> > important to have such a document and indicates the harm that may be
> > created. 
> > And I agree with Huub, now we should focus on a good 
> conceptual work.
> > Best regards,
> > Nurit
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On
> > Behalf Of ext Rolf Winter
> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:24 AM
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] poll to
> > makedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document
> > 
> > But you have seen that it might directly become a historical 
> > RFC, right
> > :) Ok, I see both your and Nurit's point. But then the IAB 
> draft seems
> > to me to really have a trivial message which is: "If you work on the
> > same thing talk to each other". Which is probably fine. I concur.
> > 
> > 	Rolf
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Huub van Helvoort [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > > Sent: Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2009 10:04
> > > To: Rolf Winter
> > > Cc: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] poll to 
> makedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-
> > > 03.txt aworking group document
> > > 
> > > Hi Rolf,
> > > 
> > > You wrote:
> > > 
> > > > There is an alternative for this draft I believe, at 
> least for its
> > > > content. The IAB seems to be in love with how the whole MPLS-TP
> > > > process is working
> > > > 
> > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-mpls-tp-uncoord-harmful). Good
> > > > for them but they fail to mention how the overall process 
> > is working
> > > > in practice. I'd propose to merge the two. I fail to see 
> > why we need
> > > > a document that praises the process and another one 
> describing it.
> > > 
> > > I do not agree with you, the draft above is a hysterical document
> > > describing what happened before the JWT was created, and
> > > draft-andersson-mpls-tp-process describes the current process as
> > > agreed by the JWT.
> > > We should concentrate on current mode of operation and not waste
> > > precious time on history.
> > > 
> > > Regards, Huub.
> > > 
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