Re: [mpls-tp] poll tomakedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document

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From: BUSI ITALO <Italo.Busi@alcatel-lucent.it>
To: "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" <nurit.sprecher@nsn.com>, ext Rolf Winter <Rolf.Winter@nw.neclab.eu>, hhelvoort@chello.nl
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The analysis of the T-MPLS case study in
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-mpls-tp-uncoord-harmful is
technically weak and incorrect.

I think this draft is a waste of time for the whole community.

Italo 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org 
> [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sprecher, 
> Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:50 AM
> To: ext Rolf Winter; hhelvoort@chello.nl
> Cc: mpls-tp@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] poll 
> tomakedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document
> 
> Hi,
> Surprisingly, although it should be trivial, it was not 
> trivial for the
> case study, T-MPLS. This is a fact. That is why it is extremely
> important to have such a document and indicates the harm that may be
> created. 
> And I agree with Huub, now we should focus on a good conceptual work.
> Best regards,
> Nurit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of ext Rolf Winter
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:24 AM
> To: hhelvoort@chello.nl
> Cc: mpls-tp@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] poll to
> makedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document
> 
> But you have seen that it might directly become a historical 
> RFC, right
> :) Ok, I see both your and Nurit's point. But then the IAB draft seems
> to me to really have a trivial message which is: "If you work on the
> same thing talk to each other". Which is probably fine. I concur.
> 
> 	Rolf
> 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Huub van Helvoort [mailto:hhelvoort@chello.nl]
> > Sent: Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2009 10:04
> > To: Rolf Winter
> > Cc: mpls-tp@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] poll to makedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-
> > 03.txt aworking group document
> > 
> > Hi Rolf,
> > 
> > You wrote:
> > 
> > > There is an alternative for this draft I believe, at least for its
> > > content. The IAB seems to be in love with how the whole MPLS-TP
> > > process is working
> > > 
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-mpls-tp-uncoord-harmful). Good
> > > for them but they fail to mention how the overall process 
> is working
> > > in practice. I'd propose to merge the two. I fail to see 
> why we need
> > > a document that praises the process and another one describing it.
> > 
> > I do not agree with you, the draft above is a hysterical document
> > describing what happened before the JWT was created, and
> > draft-andersson-mpls-tp-process describes the current process as
> > agreed by the JWT.
> > We should concentrate on current mode of operation and not waste
> > precious time on history.
> > 
> > Regards, Huub.
> > 
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