Re: [mpls-tp] Uncoordinated Protocl Development Considered Harmful Draft

"Andrew G. Malis" <amalis@gmail.com> Thu, 23 July 2009 13:15 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <amalis@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:14:39 -0400
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To: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] Uncoordinated Protocl Development Considered Harmful Draft
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ietf@ietf.org is the proper list for open discussion of
draft-iab-mpls-tp-uncoord-harmful (but please also cc: the iab list).
iab@iab.org is the proper place for private comments to the IAB on
this draft (or any other topic, for that matter).

Thanks,
Andy

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> The correct place for this discussion is not here.
>
> draft-iab-mpls-tp-uncoord-harmful is an IAB document and if you want to change what it says you need to discuss it with the IAB. Discussions on this list will have zero impact on the document.
>
> I believe (having discussed this work with the IAB) that the issue they are trying to address is about the future. They want to ensure that future protocol development of overlapping or identical protocol families is coordinated between SDOs. Part of ensuring that is to show what might go wrong. Another part is to show how the issue can be avoided.
>
> Adrian