[mpls-tp] please change subject line when you change subbject Was: (Re: poll tomakedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document)

[Loa Andersson <[e-mail]>]

All,

I don't if this is the right venue for this discussion, but if you want
to continue please change subject line when you changed subject!

/Loa

BUSI ITALO wrote:
> Nurit,
> 
> I have no time allocated for T-MPLS standardization.
> 
> As proposed by Huub:
> 
>>> We should concentrate on current mode of operation and not waste
>>> precious time on history.
> 
> Italo
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) 
>> [mailto:[e-mail]] 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:28 AM
>> To: BUSI ITALO; ext Rolf Winter; [e-mail]
>> Cc: [e-mail]
>> Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] poll 
>> tomakedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document
>>
>> Italo, 
>> If this is really the case, then I would recommend you to come with
>> answers/resolution to the arguments described in the 
>> document. This will
>> serve the Industry as well. 
>> Best regards,
>> Nurit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ext BUSI ITALO [mailto:[e-mail]] 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:14 PM
>> To: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); ext Rolf Winter;
>> [e-mail]
>> Cc: [e-mail]
>> Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] poll
>> tomakedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document
>>
>> The analysis of the T-MPLS case study in
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-mpls-tp-uncoord-harmful is
>> technically weak and incorrect.
>>
>> I think this draft is a waste of time for the whole community.
>>
>> Italo 
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [e-mail] 
>>> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Sprecher, 
>>> Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:50 AM
>>> To: ext Rolf Winter; [e-mail]
>>> Cc: [e-mail]
>>> Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] poll 
>>> tomakedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Surprisingly, although it should be trivial, it was not 
>>> trivial for the
>>> case study, T-MPLS. This is a fact. That is why it is extremely
>>> important to have such a document and indicates the harm that may be
>>> created. 
>>> And I agree with Huub, now we should focus on a good 
>> conceptual work.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Nurit
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On
>>> Behalf Of ext Rolf Winter
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:24 AM
>>> To: [e-mail]
>>> Cc: [e-mail]
>>> Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] poll to
>>> makedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txtaworking group document
>>>
>>> But you have seen that it might directly become a historical 
>>> RFC, right
>>> :) Ok, I see both your and Nurit's point. But then the IAB 
>> draft seems
>>> to me to really have a trivial message which is: "If you work on the
>>> same thing talk to each other". Which is probably fine. I concur.
>>>
>>> 	Rolf
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Huub van Helvoort [mailto:[e-mail]]
>>>> Sent: Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2009 10:04
>>>> To: Rolf Winter
>>>> Cc: [e-mail]
>>>> Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] poll to 
>> makedraft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-
>>>> 03.txt aworking group document
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rolf,
>>>>
>>>> You wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is an alternative for this draft I believe, at 
>> least for its
>>>>> content. The IAB seems to be in love with how the whole MPLS-TP
>>>>> process is working
>>>>>
>>> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-mpls-tp-uncoord-harmful). Good
>>>>> for them but they fail to mention how the overall process 
>>> is working
>>>>> in practice. I'd propose to merge the two. I fail to see 
>>> why we need
>>>>> a document that praises the process and another one 
>> describing it.
>>>> I do not agree with you, the draft above is a hysterical document
>>>> describing what happened before the JWT was created, and
>>>> draft-andersson-mpls-tp-process describes the current process as
>>>> agreed by the JWT.
>>>> We should concentrate on current mode of operation and not waste
>>>> precious time on history.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Huub.
>>>>
>>>> --
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