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Re: [mpls] Poll on way forward for MNA solution

Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> Tue, 06 September 2022 18:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll on way forward for MNA solution
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“I support the MPLS Open DT bringing forward a single unified solution”


Multiple solutions are not going to result in forward progress in the market. Rather, they will just create a variety of non-interoperable walled gardens. This completely defeats the purpose of the IETF.

Side note: I don’t advocate shouting about it, but have responded verbatim to ensure clarity.

Tony



> On Sep 6, 2022, at 11:50 AM, Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear MPLS WG and MPLS Open DT,
>  
> Over the past months, the MPLS Open DT has reviewed several proposals for the packet encodings for the MNA solution.
> A compilation of the multiple solutions brought forward is present athttps://trac.ietf.org/trac/mpls/wiki/MNADocumnets <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/mpls/wiki/MNADocumnets>.
>  
> We believe that currently there are two alternative ways to progress the MNA solution.
> One of them requires a single unified solution, and the other allows for individual solutions to progress independently.
> We expect any unified solution to document the pieces from the presented solutions that are discussed and agreed upon in the weekly MPLS Open DT meeting. 
> 
> The co-chairs for the working groups hosting the Open MPLS DT are polling the WG on their preference to move forward.
> Please respond with either:
> 
>     A) “I support the MPLS Open DT bringing forward a single unified solution"
>     OR
>     B) “I support progressing the individual solution(s) independently"
>  
> We will allow this poll to run for two weeks (ending on Sept 19th).
>  
> Regards,
> Tarek (for the MPLS Open DT co-chairs)
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