Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netconf-yang-notifications-versioning
Jürgen Schönwälder <jschoenwaelder@constructor.university> Mon, 22 May 2023 18:25 UTC
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 20:24:47 +0200
From: Jürgen Schönwälder <jschoenwaelder@constructor.university>
To: Camilo Cardona <juancamilo.cardona@imdea.org>
Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>, netconf <netconf@ietf.org>, netconf-chairs <netconf-chairs@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netconf-yang-notifications-versioning
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On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 12:43:20PM -0500, Camilo Cardona wrote: > - I like the insights shared by Jürgen and Andy regarding how hacky > versioning is for YANG 1.1. It makes sense, but I guess nobody > wants to start a 1.2 project.. If it is too hard to change the YANG version number, why should I believe it will be easy to change all the future module version numbers? If people are serious about versioning, the first thing they should do is proposing to bump the YANG version number when they make incompatible changes. /js -- Jürgen Schönwälder Constructor University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://constructor.university/>
- [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netconf-y… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Jürgen Schönwälder
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Thomas.Graf
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Zhuoyao LIN
- [netconf] 答复: Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Fengchong (frank)
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… IGNACIO DOMINGUEZ MARTINEZ-CASANUEVA
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Jürgen Schönwälder
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… IGNACIO DOMINGUEZ MARTINEZ-CASANUEVA
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Jürgen Schönwälder
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Thomas.Graf
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Jürgen Schönwälder
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Thomas.Graf
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Jürgen Schönwälder
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Camilo Cardona
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Jürgen Schönwälder
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Thomas.Graf
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Thomas.Graf
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Thomas.Graf
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Alex Huang Feng
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Jean Quilbeuf
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Voyer, Daniel
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… N.Leymann
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Thomas.Graf
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Thomas.Graf
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Thomas.Graf
- Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for draft-tgraf-netco… Mahesh Jethanandani