Re: [netext] Draft agenda of WG meeting at IETF77

<Basavaraj.Patil@Nokia.com> Wed, 10 March 2010 18:23 UTC

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From: Basavaraj.Patil@Nokia.com
To: Telemaco.Melia@alcatel-lucent.com, rkoodli@starentnetworks.com
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:22:04 +0100
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Preferably now. But by 21st March at the latest.

-Raj


On 3/10/10 12:15 PM, "ext MELIA TELEMACO"
<Telemaco.Melia@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:

> Ok, I imagine you will need the slides in advance to digest them. By when?
> 
> telemaco
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com [mailto:Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com]
> Envoyé : mercredi 10 mars 2010 19:05
> À : MELIA TELEMACO; rkoodli@starentnetworks.com
> Cc : netext@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [netext] Draft agenda of WG meeting at IETF77
> 
> 
> The plan is to have a few slides that lays out the scope and boundaries for
> the flow mobility work. Ensure that everyone who is interested in
> contributing to this work recognizes what is the minimum functionality that
> we would like to specify.
> We have also asked for one summary slide from each of the authors of I-Ds
> that have a solution for flow mobility. We can briefly discuss whether the
> proposal is aligned with the scope of the work.
> Hopefully we will see some convergence w.r.t the proposals if we can manage
> to get everyone to agree to the scope and fucntionality.
> Given that we have many solution proposals for flow mobility, we would like
> to solicit the WG in terms of how to proceed in developing a spec as part of
> the WG.
> 
> -Raj
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/10/10 11:32 AM, "ext MELIA TELEMACO"
> <Telemaco.Melia@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:
> 
>> Chairs,
>> 
>> Can you clarify how do you intend to lead the discussion on flow mobility?
>> What is the expected outcome other than listing the submitted IDs? Are we
>> asking people interested in the issue to converge? Are we discarding part of
>> the solutions?
>> 
>> Looking forward to discuss
>> 
>> Telemaco
>> 
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : netext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netext-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de
>> Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com
>> Envoyé : mercredi 10 mars 2010 02:51
>> À : JuanCarlos.Zuniga@InterDigital.com; cjbc@it.uc3m.es
>> Cc : netext@ietf.org
>> Objet : Re: [netext] Draft agenda of WG meeting at IETF77
>> 
>> 
>> Carlos,
>> 
>> I took a look at the I-D: draft-bernardos-netext-ll-statement-01. Thanks for
>> writing it. We can use this document  to discuss the milestone included in
>> the WG charter.
>> 
>> In terms of the applicability section, I was wondering if you had any
>> analysis on how the various approaches could be considered for specifically
>> addressing ITHO and flow mobility while factoring in whether a specific
>> technique would require changes to the host and if so at what layer.
>> 
>> I have updated the agenda (
>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/10mar/agenda/netext.txt) which includes the
>> discussion of this milestone.
>> 
>> Rgds,
>> -Raj
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/9/10 3:59 PM, "ext Zuniga, Juan Carlos"
>> <JuanCarlos.Zuniga@InterDigital.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Raj,
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: netext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netext-bounces@ietf.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 09 March, 2010 4:46 PM
>>>> To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es
>>>> Cc: netext@ietf.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [netext] Draft agenda of WG meeting at IETF77
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/9/10 3:35 PM, "ext Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano" <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Raj,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 22:15 +0100, Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/9/10 12:29 PM, "ext Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano"
>>>> <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Raj,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'ld like to ask why there are slots assigned to drafts that do
>>>> address
>>>>>>> any WG charter item, while draft-bernardos-netext-pmipv6-nemo-ps-01
>>>>>>> which addresses one of the charter items:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Which specific slots are you refering to?
>>>>>> A. The radius extensions for PMIP6 is part of the WG after
>>>> rechartering.
>>>>>> This work has been transferred from Netlmm to Netext
>>>>>> B. The localized routing I-D is the baseline from which we work on
>>>> the
>>>>>> solution and LR is within the scope of the charter
>>>>>> C. ITHO is now part of the charter and I have just included Yokota's
>>>> I-D to
>>>>>> initiate the discussion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as I understand Yokota's ID is a particular solution (nothing
>>>>> against it), while we are chartered to work on:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Informational applicability statement that analyzes the issues
>>>>> involved with this approach and characterizes the contexts in which
>>>>> such use is or is not appropriate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jul 2010  Initial WG document on Applicability Statement on Logical
>>>>> Interface over Multiple Physical Interfaces
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is exactly what our draft tries to discuss, so I think this is
>>>> also
>>>>> a good draft to trigger the discussion. Once this is clear, we'll
>>>> have
>>>>> to think on particular solutions (the virtual interface is one of the
>>>>> possible ones).
>>>> 
>>>> Let me revisit the agenda and also take a look at your I-D and see what
>>>> to
>>>> do. Basically the fancy wording in the milestone refers to the use of a
>>>> virtual interface for supporting ITHO.
>>> 
>>> Obviously, your interpretation of the fancy wording is not shared by all
>>> members of the group.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But thanks for keeping the chairs honest :)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> No problem. We'll do our best ;)
>>> 
>>> Jc
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Raj
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Carlos
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The I-Ds may be individual at the moment but the work itself is very
>>>> much
>>>>>> within WG charter. We will have WG I-Ds (hopefully) on these topics
>>>> at the
>>>>>> next meeting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Raj
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jul 2010  Initial WG document on Applicability Statement on Logical
>>>>>>> Interface over Multiple Physical Interfaces
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> is on the "if time permits" list.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 19:20 +0100, Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rev: 01
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Network-Based Mobility Extensions WG meeting
>>>>>>>> THURSDAY, March 25, 2010
>>>>>>>> 1300-1500 Afternoon Session I (Redondo)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1. Logistics (Bluesheets, minutes takers, jabber, agenda bashing)
>>>> 5 mins
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2. WG status update          Chairs        5 Mins
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 3. Runtime LMA selection I-D update   Jouni Korhonen     10 Mins
>>>>>>>>    I-D: draft-ietf-netext-redirect-01
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 4. Bulk re-reg I-D update and next steps    Fuad Junior   10 Mins
>>>>>>>>    I-D: draft-ietf-netext-bulk-re-registration-00
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 5. Radius extensions for PMIP6     Frank Xia       5 Mins
>>>>>>>>    I-D: draft-xia-netext-radius-00
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 5. Localized routing solution discussion    Suresh K.       20
>>>> Mins
>>>>>>>>    I-D: draft-krishnan-netext-pmip-lr-01
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 6. Flow mobility for PMIP6: Solution approaches  Chairs lead
>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>    20 Mins
>>>>>>>>    We will consider the various I-Ds that have proposed solutions
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>    flow mobility. Please send a one slide summary of your I-D and
>>>>>>>>    solution proposal to : netext-chairs@tools.ietf.org
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 7. Inter-tech HO with PMIP6   Hidetoshi Yokota      15 Mins
>>>>>>>>    I-D:  draft-yokota-netlmm-pmipv6-mn-itho-support-03
>>>>>>>>    We will also discuss the scope of the inter-technology handover
>>>>>>>>    work that needs to be undertaken in the WG.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 8. Next steps       Chairs        5 Mins
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Time permitting we will consider the following I-Ds:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (i)  draft-hong-netext-hybrid-hnp-01            Yong-Geun
>>>>>>>> (ii) draft-jeyatharan-netext-pmip-dormant-binding-v00   M.
>>>> Jeyatharan
>>>>>>>> (iii) draft-chan-netext-distributed-lma-03   Anthony Chan
>>>>>>>> (iv) draft-bernardos-netext-pmipv6-nemo-ps-01    Carlos Cano
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano     http://www.netcoms.net
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