Re: [netext] Draft agenda of WG meeting at IETF77

[Hidetoshi Yokota <[e-mail]>]

Hi Raj,

One humble request: could you swap #7 and #8? One reason is #6 and #7 
are well related to each other. Another (and more serious) reason is 
that it is unpredictable how many people will send slides for #7 and I 
can imagine that the flow mobility discussion will occupy long long time...

Thanks in advance,
-- 
Hidetoshi

(2010/03/10 10:50), [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Carlos,
>
> I took a look at the I-D: draft-bernardos-netext-ll-statement-01. Thanks for
> writing it. We can use this document  to discuss the milestone included in
> the WG charter.
>
> In terms of the applicability section, I was wondering if you had any
> analysis on how the various approaches could be considered for specifically
> addressing ITHO and flow mobility while factoring in whether a specific
> technique would require changes to the host and if so at what layer.
>
> I have updated the agenda (
> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/10mar/agenda/netext.txt) which includes the
> discussion of this milestone.
>
> Rgds,
> -Raj
>
>
>
> On 3/9/10 3:59 PM, "ext Zuniga, Juan Carlos"
> <[e-mail]>  wrote:
>
>> Hi Raj,
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Sent: Tuesday, 09 March, 2010 4:46 PM
>>> To: [e-mail]
>>> Cc: [e-mail]
>>> Subject: Re: [netext] Draft agenda of WG meeting at IETF77
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/9/10 3:35 PM, "ext Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano"<[e-mail]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Raj,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 22:15 +0100, [e-mail] wrote:
>>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/9/10 12:29 PM, "ext Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano"
>>> <[e-mail]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Raj,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'ld like to ask why there are slots assigned to drafts that do
>>> address
>>>>>> any WG charter item, while draft-bernardos-netext-pmipv6-nemo-ps-01
>>>>>> which addresses one of the charter items:
>>>>>
>>>>> Which specific slots are you refering to?
>>>>> A. The radius extensions for PMIP6 is part of the WG after
>>> rechartering.
>>>>> This work has been transferred from Netlmm to Netext
>>>>> B. The localized routing I-D is the baseline from which we work on
>>> the
>>>>> solution and LR is within the scope of the charter
>>>>> C. ITHO is now part of the charter and I have just included Yokota's
>>> I-D to
>>>>> initiate the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I understand Yokota's ID is a particular solution (nothing
>>>> against it), while we are chartered to work on:
>>>>
>>>> - Informational applicability statement that analyzes the issues
>>>> involved with this approach and characterizes the contexts in which
>>>> such use is or is not appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> Jul 2010  Initial WG document on Applicability Statement on Logical
>>>> Interface over Multiple Physical Interfaces
>>>>
>>>> This is exactly what our draft tries to discuss, so I think this is
>>> also
>>>> a good draft to trigger the discussion. Once this is clear, we'll
>>> have
>>>> to think on particular solutions (the virtual interface is one of the
>>>> possible ones).
>>>
>>> Let me revisit the agenda and also take a look at your I-D and see what
>>> to
>>> do. Basically the fancy wording in the milestone refers to the use of a
>>> virtual interface for supporting ITHO.
>>
>> Obviously, your interpretation of the fancy wording is not shared by all
>> members of the group.
>>
>>>
>>> But thanks for keeping the chairs honest :)
>>>
>>
>> No problem. We'll do our best ;)
>>
>> Jc
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Raj
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Carlos
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The I-Ds may be individual at the moment but the work itself is very
>>> much
>>>>> within WG charter. We will have WG I-Ds (hopefully) on these topics
>>> at the
>>>>> next meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Raj
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jul 2010  Initial WG document on Applicability Statement on Logical
>>>>>> Interface over Multiple Physical Interfaces
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is on the "if time permits" list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 19:20 +0100, [e-mail] wrote:
>>>>>>> Rev: 01
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Network-Based Mobility Extensions WG meeting
>>>>>>> THURSDAY, March 25, 2010
>>>>>>> 1300-1500 Afternoon Session I (Redondo)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Logistics (Bluesheets, minutes takers, jabber, agenda bashing)
>>> 5 mins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. WG status update          Chairs        5 Mins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Runtime LMA selection I-D update   Jouni Korhonen     10 Mins
>>>>>>>     I-D: draft-ietf-netext-redirect-01
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. Bulk re-reg I-D update and next steps    Fuad Junior   10 Mins
>>>>>>>     I-D: draft-ietf-netext-bulk-re-registration-00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. Radius extensions for PMIP6     Frank Xia       5 Mins
>>>>>>>     I-D: draft-xia-netext-radius-00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. Localized routing solution discussion    Suresh K.       20
>>> Mins
>>>>>>>     I-D: draft-krishnan-netext-pmip-lr-01
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6. Flow mobility for PMIP6: Solution approaches  Chairs lead
>>> discussion
>>>>>>>     20 Mins
>>>>>>>     We will consider the various I-Ds that have proposed solutions
>>> for
>>>>>>>     flow mobility. Please send a one slide summary of your I-D and
>>>>>>>     solution proposal to : [e-mail]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7. Inter-tech HO with PMIP6   Hidetoshi Yokota      15 Mins
>>>>>>>     I-D:  draft-yokota-netlmm-pmipv6-mn-itho-support-03
>>>>>>>     We will also discuss the scope of the inter-technology handover
>>>>>>>     work that needs to be undertaken in the WG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8. Next steps       Chairs        5 Mins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Time permitting we will consider the following I-Ds:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (i)  draft-hong-netext-hybrid-hnp-01            Yong-Geun
>>>>>>> (ii) draft-jeyatharan-netext-pmip-dormant-binding-v00   M.
>>> Jeyatharan
>>>>>>> (iii) draft-chan-netext-distributed-lma-03   Anthony Chan
>>>>>>> (iv) draft-bernardos-netext-pmipv6-nemo-ps-01    Carlos Cano
>>>>>>>
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