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Re: [netmod] rfc6087bis S4.23 replacement text

Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> Mon, 28 August 2017 23:01 UTC

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From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
To: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
CC: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, "netmod@ietf.org" <netmod@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] rfc6087bis S4.23 replacement text
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> rather confusing, since this <operational> notation is not defined anywhere.

A bit, yes.  I tried to get the <foo> syntax defined in RD, but my co-authors
didn't think it was necessary.  I acquiesced as well just to move things along.


> If the term 'state' added any value, we would use it more often, but I will
> change the text just to get done faster.

Exactly.


K.

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