Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG (newprep)
Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> Wed, 19 May 2010 13:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG (newprep)
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Le 10-05-19 09:40, Peter Saint-Andre a écrit : > On 5/18/10 12:32 PM, Marc Blanchet wrote: >> Le 10-05-18 14:27, Sam Hartman a écrit : >>>>>>>> "Marc" == Marc Blanchet<marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> writes: >>> >>> Marc> we had a discussion about the same subject: i.e. should we >>> Marc> restrict the scope to a specific set of documents to >>> Marc> review/update/... or do we keep some provision for other >>> Marc> documents coming in the stream that require "help" of the >>> Marc> newprep. I was arguing for the latter. To me, what you are >>> Marc> talking about is the latter. Obviously, some people wanted >>> the >>> Marc> charter to be restrictive in order to not go all over the >>> Marc> place, and I agree in principle... However, this work is >>> kinda >>> Marc> horizontal: touches many areas, so having a more large >>> view of >>> Marc> the problem space and documents that depends on this newprep >>> Marc> work would be very valuable to the working group >>> Marc> work. Therefore, I'm more for opening a bit the charter for >>> Marc> the cases like the ones you are talking about. >>> >>> I'm happy with a restrictive charter so long as the work areas >>> identified today (including mine) are included. >> >> my guess is that we most likely will discover other issues/newprep >> potential "customers" as we go, that it might be useful to work on, >> since they have a lot of similarities with the others official in the >> charter. > > Agreed. > >> therefore, more "opened" than closed charter. > > We're trying to balance two things here: (1) we want to get as much > input as possible from current and potential customers of stringprep or > newprep/stringprepbis/whatever, but (2) we want to scope the WG tightly > enough that it doesn't have a mandate to work on "anything related to > internationalized strings". agreed. > >>> I'm happy drawing a >>> line in the sand and saying "here's what we'll touch first," so long as >>> people who bring up items now get included. I'd probably be happier >>> with a reasonably open charter. >>> >>> I'm not at all happy if the items I bring up or other similar items >>> brought up now are excluded. > > In an email exchange with Marc and Alexey Melnikov last week, I proposed > adding the following paragraph to the charter: > > Although the group may provide advice regarding other technologies, > it will prioritize work on the above-listed stringprep profiles and > will take on additional tasks as official milestones only after > rechartering. > > We might want to broaden that a bit further to explicitly mention > seeking feedback from customers other than the existing stringprep profiles: > > Although the group will seek input from and may provide advice to > "customers" working on other technologies, it will prioritize work > on the above-listed stringprep profiles and will take on additional > tasks as official milestones only after rechartering. > fine by me. Marc. > Peter > -- ========= IPv6 book: Migrating to IPv6, Wiley. http://www.ipv6book.ca Stun/Turn server for VoIP NAT-FW traversal: http://numb.viagenie.ca DTN news service: http://reeves.viagenie.ca NAT64-DNS64 Opensource: http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca
- [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG… IESG Secretary
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… JFC Morfin
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Mark Lentczner
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Alan DeKok
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Jiankang YAO
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman