[Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Timescales
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From: Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>
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Subject: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Timescales
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>>> Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> schrieb am 09.12.2020 um 11:18 in Nachricht <20201209101830.7CB0240605C@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net>: > Crazy idea dept... But maybe... > > Can we make the basic time transfer protocol use a simple/clean time scale, > say TAI with nothing in the basic protocol about leap seconds? Or two TAIs and two offsets?: (TAI and current offset from UTC) (time of next offset change as TAI, next offset) I think the main challenge is how to represent required and optional data items. Once you have this pick the rest like pizza topping ;-) > > The idea is to push the leap second stuff to a sub‑protocol or whereever. > Keep the main protocol clean. Let the client handle leap seconds. > > ("sub‑protocol" doesn't seem like a good term, but I can't think of a better > one right now.) > > If you had such a split, would you package the extras as extensions or a > separate mode? > > Is there anything that would go in such a sub‑protocol that involves "now"? > For example, you might want to implement leap‑smearing by saying "the offset > from TAI is now xxxx" but you don't need that. The client can compute the > offset. > > Aside from leap‑second stuff, what else would get packaged that way? > > ‑‑‑‑‑‑ > > Given TAI, there are 2 pieces of information that a clients needs to handle > UTC and its leap seconds. The first is the current TAI‑UTC offset. The > second is when the next leap second happens. That data changes very > infrequently and with plenty of warning. There is no need to clutter up > on‑the‑wire protocols with it. A client could get it from a leap‑seconds file > distributed by their distro. > > > ‑‑ > These are my opinions. I hate spam. > > > > _______________________________________________ > ntp mailing list > ntp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ntp
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