Re: [Ntp] Symmetric mode

[Miroslav Lichvar <[e-mail]>]

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 06:01:58PM -0400, Danny Mayer wrote:
> On 9/21/22 4:31 AM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > You claim that something exists, that there is something special about
> > symmetric mode with respect to orphan mode or source selection in
> > general. That's easy for you to prove that. You just need to point to
> > an exact location in the source code or RFC and we can easily confirm
> > if that is true.
> 
> I have pointed you to papers and documents by Dave Mills. You have access to
> the source code and you can run it in a debugger and examine the logs. If
> you say that the source code is opaque, I won't disagree with you, at times
> it takes me a while to understand what it's doing.

As I asked you multiple times, you need to point to an exact location
in the documentation, or source code. You claim there is a feature
specific to the symmetric mode. I don't know what it is and you don't
want to reveal it, so I cannot find it.

> I have provided you with examples of why it's useful.

No, you have not. You said it's extremely useful in some cases, but
didn't explain why.

> Someone made a claim that it uses more packets than client/server modes, but
> that's not true either, something that can be easily verified by running the
> code and looking at the packet traffic.

The claim was the opposite, that it uses half of the traffic of the
two corresponding client/server associations. Yes, it can be easily
verified with tcpdump.

> > where I don't see anything checking the mode (MODE_SERVER vs
> > MODE_ACTIVE/MODE_PASSIVE), but that doesn't mean this distinction
> > couldn't be hidden somewhere else.
> > 
> > It's up to you to prove that it exists.
> > 
> No, I've already done that. See the running code. I have no idea what you
> mean by exists since it's in the reference implementation code.

I don't know where that distinction is. You claim it is in the source
code, but you don't want tell us where.

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Miroslav Lichvar