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Re: [ntpwg] [TICTOC] comments on draft-stenn-ntp-suggest-refid-00

Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> Thu, 07 April 2016 06:22 UTC

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stenn@ntp.org said:
> As I said before, the real source of time is available from a mode 6 query. 

My system doesn't automatically log that.  The remove system probably does 
log it, but I probably don't have convenient access to those log files.

If the reason the remove server is hiding the real refid is to prevent the 
bad guys from figuring out which servers it is using, then mode 6 access is 
probably blocked.


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