Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter
<david.black@emc.com> Fri, 17 February 2012 18:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter
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Hi Robert, > Actually to be fare on this one I have to agree with John. I think you meant "fair" as opposed to "fare", although I'll be happy to collect the latter from you ... or your spell-checker :-). > 10 authors and 16 pages to define a GRE key is an amazing achievement. I referenced both drafts for context, and I'm not going to argue with that "major achievement" characterization. Both drafts are -00 versions that will need more work to fill in details. The reason to look at those drafts now is that they provide additional insight into the problem space, which may help illuminate why a "just use a VPN" approach doesn't solve all the problems of interest. Thanks, --David ________________________________ From: Robert Raszuk [robert@raszuk.net] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 12:21 PM To: Black, David Cc: John E Drake; narten@us.ibm.com; nvo3@ietf.org; Ronald Bonica; Nitin Bahadur; Adrian Farrel Subject: Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter > I suggest reading the NVGRE and VXLAN drafts for more context: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sridharan-virtualization-nvgre-00 Actually to be fare on this one I have to agree with John. 10 authors and 16 pages to define a GRE key is an amazing achievement. Especially since GRE header with MPLS label behind it is used effectively for many years now to achieve the same level of virtualization in number of shipping applications. Reference: RFC4023 Regards, R.
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