Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter
Xuxiaohu <xuxiaohu@huawei.com> Tue, 21 February 2012 03:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter
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> -----邮件原件----- > 发件人: nvo3-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:nvo3-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Robert > Raszuk > 发送时间: 2012年2月18日 0:50 > 收件人: John E Drake > 抄送: narten@us.ibm.com; Ronald Bonica; david.black@emc.com; > nvo3@ietf.org; Adrian Farrel; Nitin Bahadur > 主题: Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter > > Hi John, > > > [JD] This is an assertion. It is also the misses the fact that MPLS > > is only required to mux/demux packets at the edges of the VPN > > network. > > Let me observe that at least in some data centers the "edge of VPN" is > likely to be the hypervisor (with OVS) on the host machine. The reason > being that VMs residing on such host may belong to different customers. > > Could you describe how existing technologies would work in such case ? > Are you proposing to turn each host to be a PE ? Or are you worried that > host has not sufficient forwarding power to act as PE so one would need > a dedicated hardware to be a PE ? In addition to the concern about not sufficient forwarding power, host-based L2 overlay will more heavily depends on the core multicast trees to deliver uu/mc/bc traffic since the number of PE nodes will increase compared to the ToR-based L2 overly without doubt. However, keeping too many multicast groups within the core implies a serious scaling challenge on both the control plane and the data plane. Otherwise(if head-end replication is used), host-based L2 overlay will consume more bandwidth compared to ToR-based L2 overlay. Unless there is no mc and bc, and even no uu traffic within data centers... Best regards, Xiaohu > Best regards, > R. > > _______________________________________________ > nvo3 mailing list > nvo3@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3
- [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Randy Bush
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Igor Gashinsky
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Stewart Bryant
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Larry Kreeger
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Paul Unbehagen
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Larry Kreeger
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Ping Pan
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Pat Thaler
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Pat Thaler
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Larry Kreeger
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Lizhong Jin
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Xuxiaohu
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Xuxiaohu
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Lizhong Jin
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Pedro Marques
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Pat Thaler