Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter
John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> Fri, 17 February 2012 17:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter
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Robert, Comments inline. Thanks, John > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Raszuk [mailto:robert@raszuk.net] > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:08 AM > To: John E Drake > Cc: narten@us.ibm.com; Ronald Bonica; david.black@emc.com; > nvo3@ietf.org; Adrian Farrel; Nitin Bahadur > Subject: Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter > > Hi John, > > But that is perfect example of the draft for nvo3 ! [JD] I'm not sure what you mean by nv03. If you mean a yet to be chartered WG group that develops enhancements to existing IETF technologies to address requirements unique to the data center, then I would agree with you. Btw, are you aware of the VM mobility draft: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-raggarwa-data-center-mobility/? > Especially since > L3VPN WG is apparently closing down .... > > Since you brought it ... are you and your affiliation support > draft-marques-l3vpn-end-system ? [JD] The draft has a Juniper co-author. > > Regards, > R. > > > Robert, > > > > As an example, please see: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft- > marques-l3vpn-end-system/ > > > > Thanks, > > > > John > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Robert Raszuk [mailto:robert@raszuk.net] > >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:50 AM > >> To: John E Drake > >> Cc: david.black@emc.com; narten@us.ibm.com; nvo3@ietf.org; Ronald > >> Bonica; Nitin Bahadur; Adrian Farrel > >> Subject: Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter > >> > >> Hi John, > >> > >>> [JD] This is an assertion. It is also the misses the fact that > MPLS > >>> is only required to mux/demux packets at the edges of the VPN > >>> network. > >> > >> Let me observe that at least in some data centers the "edge of VPN" > is > >> likely to be the hypervisor (with OVS) on the host machine. The > reason > >> being that VMs residing on such host may belong to different > customers. > >> > >> Could you describe how existing technologies would work in such case > ? > >> Are you proposing to turn each host to be a PE ? Or are you worried > >> that > >> host has not sufficient forwarding power to act as PE so one would > need > >> a dedicated hardware to be a PE ? > >> > >> Best regards, > >> R. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nvo3 mailing list > > nvo3@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3 > > > >
- [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Randy Bush
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Igor Gashinsky
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Stewart Bryant
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Larry Kreeger
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Paul Unbehagen
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Larry Kreeger
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Ping Pan
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Pat Thaler
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Pat Thaler
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Larry Kreeger
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Lizhong Jin
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Xuxiaohu
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Xuxiaohu
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Lizhong Jin
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Pedro Marques
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Draft NVO3 WG Charter Pat Thaler