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Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer

Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Wed, 09 May 2012 19:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer
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On 05/09/2012 12:06 PM, Eran Hammer wrote:
> So no discussion of this is expected on the list - correct? That's what I wanted to clarify. You asked the WG to "think" about its potential implications but I don't want that "thinking" to happen out-loud on this list...
>
> Raising the issue with your internal IPR team is the right step.

What internal IPR team? The IETF is not a corpro-only club.

Mike
>
> EH
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:37 AM
>> To: Eran Hammer
>> Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG
>> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer
>>
>> Hi Eran,
>>
>> if you care about the specification (and want to use it in your products) then
>> you may want to reach out to your IPR folks and ask for their judgement.
>> They may be able to tell you whether they find the cited IPR applicable and
>> whether they had experience with the IPR holder already.
>>
>> Ciao
>> Hannes
>>
>> On May 9, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Eran Hammer wrote:
>>
>>> What exactly is the expected WG discussion on this? I hope people here
>> are not expected to read the patent and make legal decisions about the
>> patent's validity or even applicability as these are questions for lawyers, not
>> engineers.
>>> EH
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: oauth-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:44 AM
>>>> To: oauth@ietf.org WG
>>>> Subject: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> an IPR disclosure had been submitted for the OAuth bearer document
>>>> recently. In case you may have missed it, here is the link to it:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1752/
>>>>
>>>> The ADs will re-run the IETF last call due to this new IPR filing and
>>>> we would also like the working group to check the IPR and to think
>>>> about potential implications.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Ciao
>>>> Hannes&  Derek
>>>>
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