Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of "OAuth Token Introspection" as an OAuth Working Group Item

Justin Richer <jricher@MIT.EDU> Wed, 30 July 2014 00:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of "OAuth Token Introspection" as an OAuth Working Group Item
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Not true if I revoke the token after it's been issued but before it expires.

On 7/29/2014 8:49 PM, Mike Jones wrote:
>
> Yes, but that's the simplest thing to determine -- try the token and 
> see whether it works or not.
>
> *From:*Thomas Broyer [mailto:t.broyer@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:43 PM
> *To:* Mike Jones
> *Cc:* <oauth@ietf.org>; George Fletcher; Phil Hunt
> *Subject:* RE: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of "OAuth 
> Token Introspection" as an OAuth Working Group Item
>
> Decoding a token with a specific format wouldn't tell you whether the 
> token is still live: it could have been revoked before its expiration.
>
> Le 30 juil. 2014 02:16, "Mike Jones" <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com 
> <mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>> a écrit :
>
> Did you consider standardizing the access token format within that 
> deployment so all the parties that needed to could understand it, 
> rather requiring an extra round trip to an introspection endpoint so 
> as to be able to understand things about it?
>
> I realize that might or might not be practical in some cases, but I 
> haven't heard that alternative discussed, so I thought I'd bring it up.
>
> I also second Phil's comment that it would be good to understand the 
> use cases that this is intended to solve before embarking on a 
> particular solution path.
>
> -- Mike
>
> *From:*OAuth [mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org 
> <mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org>] *On Behalf Of *George Fletcher
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:25 PM
> *To:* Phil Hunt; Thomas Broyer
> *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org <mailto:oauth@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of "OAuth 
> Token Introspection" as an OAuth Working Group Item
>
> We also have a use case where the AS is provided by a partner and the 
> RS is provided by AOL. Being able to have a standardized way of 
> validating and getting data about the token from the AS would make our 
> implementation much simpler as we can use the same mechanism for all 
> Authorization Servers and not have to implement one off solutions for 
> each AS.
>
> Thanks,
> George
>
> On 7/28/14, 8:11 PM, Phil Hunt wrote:
>
>     Could we have some discussion on the interop cases?
>
>     Is it driven by scenarios where AS and resource are separate
>     domains? Or may this be only of interest to specific protocols
>     like UMA?
>
>     From a technique principle, the draft is important and sound. I am
>     just not there yet on the reasons for an interoperable standard.
>
>     Phil
>
>
>     On Jul 28, 2014, at 17:00, Thomas Broyer <t.broyer@gmail.com
>     <mailto:t.broyer@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Yes. This spec is of special interest to the platform we're
>         building for http://www.oasis-eu.org/
>
>         On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Hannes Tschofenig
>         <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net <mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>>
>         wrote:
>
>         Hi all,
>
>         during the IETF #90 OAuth WG meeting, there was strong
>         consensus in
>         adopting the "OAuth Token Introspection"
>         (draft-richer-oauth-introspection-06.txt) specification as an
>         OAuth WG
>         work item.
>
>         We would now like to verify the outcome of this call for
>         adoption on the
>         OAuth WG mailing list. Here is the link to the document:
>         http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richer-oauth-introspection/
>
>         If you did not hum at the IETF 90 OAuth WG meeting, and have
>         an opinion
>         as to the suitability of adopting this document as a WG work item,
>         please send mail to the OAuth WG list indicating your opinion
>         (Yes/No).
>
>         The confirmation call for adoption will last until August 10,
>         2014.  If
>         you have issues/edits/comments on the document, please send these
>         comments along to the list in your response to this Call for
>         Adoption.
>
>         Ciao
>         Hannes & Derek
>
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