Re: [PCN] Architecture draft - probing section & general updates.
Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> Thu, 25 October 2007 12:25 UTC
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From: Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: [PCN] Architecture draft - probing section & general updates.
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:25:07 +0300
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On 2007-10-25, at 13:56, ext philip.eardley@bt.com wrote: > Lars, I believe the guess is that there'll be many ingress-egress > pairs > with none or very few flows at a particular moment. Not a random > distribution of calls onto all possible pairs. Basically there are > many > calls between London & Manchester and very few between truro and > Shetland. I can agree with that. But note that that alone is not a problem yet. The problem occurs only when several of these "empty" ingress pairs share a bottleneck *and* when single flows start simultaneously sending across them at a combined rate that will push the bottleneck directly into overload. I don't believe this can be very common. Wouldn't you provision your network such that interior routers could handle at least one flow per ingress/egress pair? In which case there is no issue unless there's a failure. And why not let flow termination handle these rare cases? > I & Ben will try and extract some numbers from the [bt] > predicted future traffic matrix. That'd be *very* useful! We're all guessing probabilities here, and data would help. Lars
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