Re: [PCN] Architecture draft - probing section & general updates.

Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> Thu, 25 October 2007 09:55 UTC

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From: Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: [PCN] Architecture draft - probing section & general updates.
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:54:29 +0300
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On 2007-10-24, at 19:14, ext Jozef Babiarz wrote:
> I'm thinking of a scenario that many enterprises face today. Large  
> multi
> location enterprises use multiple WAN links or VPS to interconnect  
> their
> locations. PCN is run inside the enterprise network including WAN  
> links
> which maybe tunneled across the carrier network. Network Access  
> Control
> with PCN admission control is done at the enterprise access edge  
> nodes.
> New flows can be routed to any egress access edge node and some flows
> will (between different locations) be routed over one of the WAN links
> which are normally bandwidth constrained.

I understand your scenario so far.

> There is a high probability
> that many access nodes will only have one flow between each other as
> there are a large number of them.

I don't see how this follows, however. It seems that if the sites  
that are being interconnected aren't tiny, there should very likely  
be multiple flows per ingress/egress pair, no?

Lars
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