Re: [perpass] "Its an attack" BCP draft
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Wed, 20 November 2013 23:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [perpass] "Its an attack" BCP draft
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Its great how we can all focus in on one word:-) I infer that means you're all ok with all the rest of 'em, but even better if you said that. Meanwhile I got an offlist suggestion: OLD In particular, the term, when used technically, implies nothing about the motivation of the bad-actor mounting the attack, who is still called a bad-actor no matter what one really thinks about their motivation. NEW In particular, the term, when used technically, implies nothing about the motivation of the actor mounting the attack. Which I think is just fine so I've done that in the working version. S. On 11/20/2013 11:19 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: > On 11/20/13, 3:14 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: >> On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Rob Stradling >> <rob.stradling@comodo.com> wrote: >>> s/surveillor/surveillant/ ? >> >> Eavesdropper? Has negative connotations, but only mildly so. > > bad actor is a value judgement. have no doubt that the intent of > surveillance is hostile with respect to the assumputions of the > privacy of one's communications. > >> _______________________________________________ perpass mailing >> list perpass@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ perpass mailing > list perpass@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSjUSeAAoJEC88hzaAX42ihT8H/2/McAgInrCQUj+pGfGASH7x KvouBHynEJI1ajV6TXod91K1cKUOawwi467fznLVKcLIhHtvHYMH+S0R+sC0iCHS aqBez7DzLoW3MhPp1MIF0M6BSB9x11+y/QnZKFIWftMSP+oUcwEceBNHPGHbXMYU ZRRNIos3Tg/9CmPDSYa+lRTxcnEsJoRli/Nxv7mLLPhcH9zzuUX/hIor4F0gc+8D Qre2kLepo9WyvaOmPkmuLK9kZXzwB5ROrkAlnRRx2beX9y17nrh+YG2ogrCZ6a3Y irhHLuzkMVzf6sRWMHgUMFAz4kEgQBwL/Pcw+6OexqG3sCDcuQp3o79zINymTJQ= =9M9H -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- Re: [perpass] "Its an attack" BCP draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [perpass] "Its an attack" BCP draft joel jaeggli
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- Re: [perpass] "Its an attack" BCP draft Ted Lemon
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