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Re: [perpass] "Its an attack" BCP draft

Jon Callas <joncallas@icloud.com> Thu, 21 November 2013 19:05 UTC

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On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

> 
> Fair point, and "bad-actor" doesn't fit that well anyway. Will
> find a better term or gladly take suggestions.
> 

An appropriate term of art is "adversary."

	Jon

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