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Re: [perpass] "Its an attack" BCP draft

joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Wed, 20 November 2013 23:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [perpass] "Its an attack" BCP draft
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On 11/20/13, 3:14 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Rob Stradling <rob.stradling@comodo.com> wrote:
>> s/surveillor/surveillant/  ?
> 
> Eavesdropper?   Has negative connotations, but only mildly so.

bad actor is a value judgement. have no doubt that the intent of
surveillance is hostile with respect to the assumputions of the privacy
of one's communications.

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