Re: [perpass] "Its an attack" BCP draft
Robin Wilton <wilton@isoc.org> Fri, 22 November 2013 16:55 UTC
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Fair points. There is something about the recent revelations that makes this idea seem important - of entities who have one nominal role in the 'ecosystem' but abuse that role to conceal harmful activity... but OK, we can reflect that in other ways than by the use of the term "bad actor". Have a good weekend, everyone - Robin Robin Wilton Technical Outreach Director - Identity and Privacy Internet Society email: wilton@isoc.org Phone: +44 705 005 2931 Twitter: @futureidentity On 22 Nov 2013, at 14:56, Stephen Kent wrote: > Robin, > > Jon is correct in term of the usual terminology employed in the security community. > > Also, because we have said that we are trying to address passive wiretapping > effected by a wide range of adversaries, I don't think we're focusing exclusively > on entities who are "legitimate" participants. > > Steve > > On 11/21/13 6:27 PM, Robin Wilton wrote: >> I'm not sure I agree... in this context, "bad actors" are those who exploit their legitimate participation in a system to act in illegitimate ways, advancing their interests regardless of the disbenefit to others or to the system itself. >> >> That's not necessarily adversarial... >> >> R > _______________________________________________ > perpass mailing list > perpass@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass
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