[pim] 答复: call for adoption: draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01

Xuxiaohu <xuxiaohu@huawei.com> Mon, 03 June 2013 03:51 UTC

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From: Xuxiaohu <xuxiaohu@huawei.com>
To: Mike McBride <mmcbride7@gmail.com>, "Prashant Jhingran (pjhingra)" <pjhingra@cisco.com>
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Subject: [pim] 答复: call for adoption: draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01
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> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Mike McBride [mailto:mmcbride7@gmail.com]
> 发送时间: 2013年5月31日 15:07
> 收件人: Prashant Jhingran (pjhingra)
> 抄送: Rajiv Asati (rajiva); Xuxiaohu; sganesan@extremenetworks.com; Wei
> Zhou (weizho2); Stig Venaas; pim@ietf.org
> 主题: Re: [pim] call for adoption: draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01
> 
> Thank you for the responses.
> 
> Some feel the two drafts are completely unrelated while others feel
> they are completely related. In either case, are you, who feel they
> are related, saying you oppose the adoption of draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01?
> We can infer that is the case but I haven't heard explicitly stated
> opposition to adoption. We now have several choices for
> draft-zhou-pim-vrrp, let me try boiling it down to 3:
> 
> 1. adopt draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01 as is
> 2. adopt draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01 only after
> draft-xu-pim-drpriority-auto-adjustment is referenced.
> 3. merge the drafts

I prefer option 3.

Best regards,
Xiaohu

> In either case the authors should revive the expired
> draft-xu-pim-drpriority-auto-adjustment-03 for consideration within
> the wg irregardless of vrrp-01 adoption outcome.
> 
> What say ye?
> 
> mike
> 
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Prashant Jhingran (pjhingra)
> <pjhingra@cisco.com> wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I agree with Rajiv, both drafts are trying to solve the same issue....that too in
> almost similar way.
> >
> > -
> > Regards,
> > Prashant Jhingran
> > NOSTG TME - SP Wi-Fi
> >
> > http://wwwin.cisco.com/ios/tech/mobile/proxyipv6/
> > http://wwwin.cisco.com/ios/tech/broadband
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:06 AM
> > To: Mike McBride; Xuxiaohu; sganesan@extremenetworks.com; Prashant
> Jhingran (pjhingra); Wei Zhou (weizho2)
> > Cc: Stig Venaas; pim@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: [pim] call for adoption: draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > It seems that both drafts seem to solve nearly the same problem (multiple
> routers on the multi-access interface and existence of first-hop redundancy
> protocols e.g. VRRP).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rajiv
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mike McBride [mailto:mmcbride7@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:17 AM
> >> To: Xuxiaohu; sganesan@extremenetworks.com; Rajiv Asati (rajiva);
> >> Prashant Jhingran (pjhingra); Wei Zhou (weizho2)
> >> Cc: Stig Venaas; Mike McBride; pim@ietf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [pim] call for adoption: draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01
> >>
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >> We have this new draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01 which we are about to adopt
> >> into the pim wg. It has been brought to the WGs attention that there
> >> is a older draft (draft-xu-pim-drpriority-auto-adjustment-03) which
> >> may have some overlap with the new one. That older draft does contain
> >> information about VRRP aware PIM which is attributed to Stig in the
> >> acknowledgements. If the five of you authors feel that there is some
> >> validity that the older draft contains some information being used in
> >> the new draft, you may want to acknowledge that in the references or
> >> acknowledgements. It appears the drafts are dissimilar enough to not
> >> be merged but I may be wrong. Please share your opinions on this so we
> >> can establish consensus within the group and move the document along.
> >>
> >> If the broader WG participants have an opinion on this please speak up.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> mike
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Xuxiaohu <xuxiaohu@huawei.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > This draft reminds me that there has been a draft
> >> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-pim-drpriority-auto-adjustment-03
> >> ) three years before which uses almost the same technology to save
> >> almost the same problem.
> >> >
> >> > The following is quoted from the above draft:
> >> >
> >> >    "In fact, if VRRP is run on the PIM routers and the VRRP has enabled
> >> >    the upstream link tracking mechanism, the PIM DR failover
> mechanism
> >> >    could be coupled with the VRRP so as to reuse the upstream link
> >> >    tracking mechanism of VRRP. One option is to synchronize the PIM DR
> >> >    priority value to the VRRP priority value always. In this way, the
> >> >    PIM DR and the VRRP master will always run on an identical router if
> >> >    the VRRP Preempt_Mode is set to True. Another option is to make the
> >> >    PIM DR and the VRRP master run on an identical router anyway (i.e.,
> >> >    regardless whether or not the VRRP Preempt_Mode is True). To
> achieve
> >> >    this goal, the PIM DR priority of the VRRP master router SHOULD
> >> >    always be set to a higher fixed value than that of the VRRP slave
> >> >    router automatically."
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Xiaohu
> >> >
> >> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> >> 发件人: pim-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pim-bounces@ietf.org] 代表
> >> Mike
> >> >> McBride
> >> >> 发送时间: 2013年5月10日 3:48
> >> >> 收件人: pim@ietf.org
> >> >> 主题: [pim] call for adoption: draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01
> >> >>
> >> >> draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01 was presented in our most recent pim meeting
> >> >> in Orlando. 4 people were in favor of adopting the draft. Zero against.
> >> >> Please read the draft (its short) and provide an opinion either way
> >> >> by the end of next Friday the 17th.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-zhou-pim-vrrp-01.txt
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks,
> >> >> mike
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