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From: Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth@entrust.com>
To: Sofía Celi <cherenkov@riseup.net>, "pqc@ietf.org" <pqc@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Pqc] [Ext] [EXTERNAL] Mapping the state of PQC and IETF
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I had another free block of time, so I merged Rebecca's list into the markdown doc. PR:

https://github.com/ietf-wg-pquip/state-of-protocols-and-pqc/pull/6

... though it looks like Sofía's made a bunch of changes at the same time, so hopefully it's not too hard to merge.


I included everything from Rebecca's list. I sorted the drafts into 4 separate lists:

# Protocol-independent Algorithm / Crypto Specifications
# PQC Support in Protocols and Migration Techniques
# PQC-Adjacent Improvements
# Sec Area Protocols - No Action Needed

I'll leave it to Paul and Sofía to make editorial choices, for example, whether to remove the "PQC-Adjacent Improvements" list.


Compiling this list has opened thoughts about the qsc-keys drafts, but I'll start a new thread about that.

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Mike Ounsworth

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From: Pqc <pqc-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Sofía Celi
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Subject: Re: [Pqc] [Ext] [EXTERNAL] Mapping the state of PQC and IETF

I agree with Paul. Thank you, Mike!

On 28/02/2023 03:16, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> I merged these changes quickly so that people can see the list more easily. It's an excellent idea for this WG to be tracking both, possibly moving things between the two lists.
>
> --Paul Hoffman
>

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