Re: [Pqc] Mapping the state of PQC and IETF

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From: John Gray <John.Gray@entrust.com>
To: Rebecca Guthrie <rmguthr=40uwe.nsa.gov@dmarc.ietf.org>, "pqc@ietf.org" <pqc@ietf.org>
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Great idea to compile a list of all the PQ related drafts!   In addition to the ones that have been listed, we are working on updating the following (in the LAMPS working group):

We are working on adding KEM support in this draft:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-rfc4210bis/     - Certificate Management Protocol Version 3

We are also working on updates to these drafts.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-keys/    -   Composite keys
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-kem/    -    Composite KEM

Cheers,

John Gray

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Hello Sofia and Paul and pquip,

I compiled a list of some more drafts and RFCs to add to the GitHub list. I tried my best to only include documents that are not yet listed on the GitHub, but I apologies in advance if there are any repeats!

Stateful Hash-Based Signatures
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fluhrer-lms-more-parm-sets/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZk7s91MF$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8778/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZvABWINB$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gazdag-x509-hash-sigs/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZjewniTM$

General (in support of PQ Migration)
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-ipsecme-big-payload/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZhONoBeq$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-cert-binding-for-multi-auth/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZqxaboO4$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7383/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZuLy8cyC$  (leveraged in RFC 9242) . https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9242/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZgaHOYDe$  (leveraged in https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZvZnUWN-$ ) . https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-auth-announce/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZoXN8x0L$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ajitomi-cose-cose-key-jwk-hpke-kem/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZvV6TTrv$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-cms-kemri/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZvfiRnDK$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-guthrie-ipsecme-ikev2-hybrid-auth-00__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZrrx3_DW$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-post-quantum-signatures/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZg2ba5PK$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-driscoll-pqt-hybrid-terminology/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZmW68vcB$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ounsworth-cfrg-kem-combiners/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZu_-tbIl$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-schanck-tls-additional-keyshare-00__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZjywEIK7$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9191__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZvN2nANs$  (This RFC does not explicitly mention PQC, but the handling of large certificates has come up in discussion in other places as it relates to PQC.)

Kyber
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-kyber/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZszUMhp5$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-kyber-certificates/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZr0dzilo$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-uni-qsckeys-kyber/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZgtRnnv8$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-steele-cose-kyber/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZiSIHWCF$

Dilithium
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-uni-qsckeys-dilithium/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZuB6D-RM$

Falcon
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-uni-qsckeys-falcon/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZnlbNa82$

SPHINCS+
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-cms-sphincs-plus/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZiqq9KEX$
. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-uni-qsckeys-sphincsplus/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZq25edrn$

Additionally, what are the group's thoughts on including drafts and RFCs that aren't focused on the NIST PQ Standardization Effort algorithms or on the Stateful Hash-Based Signatures, but that still address quantum resistance, such as https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8784/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZp8fR1jz$ , https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vanrein-tls-kdh/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZhkwbPo_$  or https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-qr-alt/?__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZq-oEXCE$

Last, I would suggest that this list does not include draft-irtf-qirg-quantum-internet-use-cases, as this draft focuses on quantum computing which is distinct from quantum-resistant cryptography.

Rebecca

Rebecca Guthrie
she/her
Center for Cybersecurity Standards (CCSS) Cybersecurity Collaboration Center (CCC) National Security Agency (NSA)

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Subject: [Pqc] Mapping the state of PQC and IETF

Dear, list,

We have started work on mapping the state of PQC (if any draft or RFC
exists) in the different IETF protocols/WG and IRTF groups: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/ietf-wg-pquip/state-of-protocols-and-pqc__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!eu1hPKREuxI8n_3HshS5tkmhIKFnDgGtDjPa0uiYfQkAVrFbC-fPwGyXtwGwzmtqGpaochQgS6DypRFuNJvYsIXlZk34wkRS$  to keep track of where everything is at. Feel free to contribute by sending a PR. We hope this list is useful to many.

Thank you,

Sofía and Paul

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