Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Packet Type for QUIC-LB (#1980)
janaiyengar <notifications@github.com> Mon, 12 November 2018 11:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Packet Type for QUIC-LB (#1980)
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Reserving a codepoint would be putting the horse before the cart. Let's first get the QUIC-LB draft to a point where it is a wg activity, then discuss the designs in there, and agree on a need for a packet-type in the wg. I don't think it makes sense to reserve a codepoint before we've agreed on the mechanisms in the draft first. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 8:13 AM Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com> wrote: > I think that we probably want to have a deeper conversation about this > draft. I look at it and ask why you need to create a bespoke protocol here > at all. If it is going to look like QUIC proper, why not make it be QUIC > proper? > > But even assuming that you do need that, why are you concerned about > making this look like QUIC proper? I can't see why you would need that for > routing purposes, because it seems like you should be back to 5-tuples for > routing on this bit. I can't see why you would concern yourself with > ossification on a link that you presumably have considerable influence > over. I can see why you might want to disambiguate this connection from > "real" connections, but you could use a separate port, ALPN, or even a new > QUIC version if it came to that (though I would advise against a version). > > On response to @marten-seemann <https://github.com/marten-seemann>'s > comment, which I agree with, you might also like to consider the effect of > having 5 types in the long header and what that does for protocol > ossification. > > — > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1980#issuecomment-437724235>, > or mute the thread > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AKjg1LcqhgGp84gRP6L8Rf5GRvLZPx1Cks5uuMtVgaJpZM4YSmjs> > . > -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1980#issuecomment-437846835
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Packet T… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Subodh Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… martinduke
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… janaiyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… martinduke
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… janaiyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reserve Long Header Pack… MikkelFJ