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Re: Quic: the Elephant in the Room

Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Wed, 21 April 2021 01:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: Quic: the Elephant in the Room
To: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
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From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
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On 4/20/21 6:31 PM, Lucas Pardue wrote:
> Michael,
>
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, 02:19 Michael Thomas, <mike@mtcc.com 
> <mailto:mike@mtcc.com>> wrote:
>
>     []
>
>     if anybody is baffled by this, you should read the thread on the ietf
>     list about "snarling". the wg chairs are a classic example. their
>     fiefdom was challenged. it was utterly predictable, and I called it
>     before hand.
>
>
> You are making noise on this list. Please stop it.
>
> If you want to branch or direct your thread of discussion towards 
> things that are related to the QUIC protocol, that is entirely of the 
> purview of this group and is welcomed.
>
> If you want to talk about extending TLS, DANE, PKI, or the topics of 
> other mailing lists that are unrelated to the interests of this WG, 
> the QUIC mailing list is not the appropriate venue.
>
I will not. You are a posterchild for what is wrong with IETF. Please 
get some clue.

Mike

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