Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments
Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com> Tue, 20 July 2021 10:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments
From: Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>
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> There has been a long-standing assumption that if you exercised a path in the (recent) past you can probably assume that the properties haven't changed much if you want to start exercising it again. This is why heuristics like caching path properties (RTTs, etc.) are often of benefit - often, but not always, and maybe never in some scenarios (e.g., overcommitted CGNs.) This is rough assumption for WiFi. I just measured one laptop on a WiFi n network going from no service to 1Mb/s to 10Mb/s moving only a few meters, and then 100Mb/s moving some more. You can rapidly transition between a network being available and not available, and if you do not handle some heuristics, you can get some bad artefacts. Mobile can of course also vary a lot when going from 4G to 3G to no signal in a tunnel on a train. Mikkel
- Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Yanmei Liu
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Robin MARX
- Re: Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Ma, Yunfei
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Roberto Peon
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Charles 'Buck' Krasic
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Yunfei Ma
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Roberto Peon
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Christian Huitema
- Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Alexis Norech
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Charles 'Buck' Krasic
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Roberto Peon
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Lucas Pardue
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Yunfei Ma
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Yunfei Ma
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Yunfei Ma
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Christian Huitema
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Lucas Pardue
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Lars Eggert
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Robin MARX
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Christian Huitema
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Yunfei Ma
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Ian Swett
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Yunfei Ma
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Christian Huitema
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Multi-path QUIC Extension Experiments Yunfei Ma