Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays
Henry Sinnreich <hsinnrei@adobe.com> Thu, 05 March 2009 20:27 UTC
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From: Henry Sinnreich <hsinnrei@adobe.com>
To: Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU>
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:27:45 -0800
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>Have you reloaded it lately? I updated it last week. The .dot file >should be dated Feb 26, 2009, and reflects the latest boilerplate. Ah, thanks! BTW: The old IPR statement validity ends this month. There is a notice to that effect if you check a .txt document using the tool at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ Henry On 3/5/09 11:14 AM, "Joe Touch" <touch@ISI.EDU> wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Henry Sinnreich wrote: > Yes, the boilerplate is out of date, but this is no surprise. Have you reloaded it lately? I updated it last week. The .dot file should be dated Feb 26, 2009, and reflects the latest boilerplate. As others noted, changing the boilerplate is easy enough - just replace it. It's highlighted (colored background) for your convenience, but otherwise isn't special. Joe > The quirks have been fixed. > > 1. Just edit the I-D using MS Word and this template, > 2. Print to text generating the .prn file on your desktop > 3. Upload the .prn and get the .txt file back. > > > As simple as this. > > I have tried the XML tools but could not find a matching XML editor. > Anyone knows one? > > Needles to say, if PDF would be admitted, any editors could be used to > generate professional documents :-) > No flames on this please. > > Henry > > > On 3/4/09 6:19 PM, "Hadriel Kaplan" <HKaplan@acmepacket.com> wrote: > > Yeah I?ve been using that template for a while, though it?s > boilerplate is out of date (I?m not sure any tool can keep up with > IETF boilerplate changes these days J). > It?s pretty good, but it still ends up with some quirks, such as > printing to the generic text printer in XP appends a space char at > the end of each line, which the ID-submission tool can?t parse > correctly. > -hadriel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Henry Sinnreich [mailto:hsinnrei@adobe.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:53 PM > *To:* Mary Barnes; Hadriel Kaplan; Adam Roach > *Cc:* rai@ietf.org; touch@isi.edu > *Subject:* Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays > > MS Word and Windows users can try the ISI online tools developed by > Joe Touch > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-touch-msword-template-v2.0-07 > > http://www.isi.edu/touch/tools/ > Go to templates > > I have just done two I-Ds without any problems and believe it is the > fastest and most robust to writer?s errors. > > Henry > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmwCG4ACgkQE5f5cImnZrvqjgCgkKDgj/xZhS3bIUUHS/ht1En2 tWsAniB2s6nDO8gAD6NPYxN/F4VNO9v6 =fy1W -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Adam Roach
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Theo Zourzouvillys
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Tom Taylor
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Joe Touch
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Greg Herlein
- [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Rescorla
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Joe Touch
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Joe Touch
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- [RAI] Reducing Delays & Running Code Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Pete Cordell
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Fred Baker
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Pete Cordell
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Pete Cordell
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Richard Bennett
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Theo Zourzouvillys
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)