Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays
"Mary Barnes" <mary.barnes@nortel.com> Thu, 05 March 2009 02:27 UTC
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From: Mary Barnes <mary.barnes@nortel.com>
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And, Microsoft's Visual Web Editor Developer Express Edition is free and it's very, very similar to XMLSpy. http://www.microsoft.com/express/vwd/ ________________________________ From: Eric Burger [mailto:eburger@standardstrack.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:10 PM To: Henry Sinnreich Cc: Hadriel Kaplan; Barnes, Mary (RICH2:AR00); Adam Roach; rai@ietf.org; touch@isi.edu Subject: Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays I currently use XMLmind <http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/>. Free for personal use. Really good, as Bill Fenner wrote a WYSIWYG xml2rfc module for it. In the past, I also used Altova XMLspy <http://www.altova.com>. If you ask, you can get a free license for IETF or W3C work. On Mar 4, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Henry Sinnreich wrote: Yes, the boilerplate is out of date, but this is no surprise. The quirks have been fixed. 1. Just edit the I-D using MS Word and this template, 2. Print to text generating the .prn file on your desktop 3. Upload the .prn and get the .txt file back. As simple as this. I have tried the XML tools but could not find a matching XML editor. Anyone knows one? Needles to say, if PDF would be admitted, any editors could be used to generate professional documents :-) No flames on this please. Henry On 3/4/09 6:19 PM, "Hadriel Kaplan" <HKaplan@acmepacket.com> wrote: Yeah I've been using that template for a while, though it's boilerplate is out of date (I'm not sure any tool can keep up with IETF boilerplate changes these days :-)). It's pretty good, but it still ends up with some quirks, such as printing to the generic text printer in XP appends a space char at the end of each line, which the ID-submission tool can't parse correctly. -hadriel ________________________________ From: Henry Sinnreich [mailto:hsinnrei@adobe.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:53 PM To: Mary Barnes; Hadriel Kaplan; Adam Roach Cc: rai@ietf.org; touch@isi.edu Subject: Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays MS Word and Windows users can try the ISI online tools developed by Joe Touch http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-touch-msword-template-v2.0-07 http://www.isi.edu/touch/tools/ Go to templates I have just done two I-Ds without any problems and believe it is the fastest and most robust to writer's errors. Henry _______________________________________________ RAI mailing list RAI@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rai
- [RAI] Reducing Delays Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Adam Roach
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Theo Zourzouvillys
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Tom Taylor
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Joe Touch
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Greg Herlein
- [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Rescorla
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Joe Touch
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Joe Touch
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- [RAI] Reducing Delays & Running Code Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Pete Cordell
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Fred Baker
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Pete Cordell
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Pete Cordell
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Richard Bennett
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Theo Zourzouvillys
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)