Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Thu, 05 March 2009 20:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Henry Sinnreich wrote: >>Have you reloaded it lately? I updated it last week. The .dot file >>should be dated Feb 26, 2009, and reflects the latest boilerplate. > > Ah, thanks! > > BTW: The old IPR statement validity ends this month. > There is a notice to that effect if you check a .txt document using the > tool at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ The current template has the latest IDR statement. I just submitted an ID, and got no warnings at all. If you do get warnings, please send me info. and I'll be glad to look into it. I do try to keep the template up to date (though, FWIW, sometimes the info on what to change is vague). Joe > > Henry > > > On 3/5/09 11:14 AM, "Joe Touch" <touch@ISI.EDU> wrote: > > > > Henry Sinnreich wrote: >> Yes, the boilerplate is out of date, but this is no surprise. > > Have you reloaded it lately? I updated it last week. The .dot file > should be dated Feb 26, 2009, and reflects the latest boilerplate. As > others noted, changing the boilerplate is easy enough - just replace it. > It's highlighted (colored background) for your convenience, but > otherwise isn't special. > > Joe > >> The quirks have been fixed. > >> 1. Just edit the I-D using MS Word and this template, >> 2. Print to text generating the .prn file on your desktop >> 3. Upload the .prn and get the .txt file back. > > >> As simple as this. > >> I have tried the XML tools but could not find a matching XML editor. >> Anyone knows one? > >> Needles to say, if PDF would be admitted, any editors could be used to >> generate professional documents :-) >> No flames on this please. > >> Henry > > >> On 3/4/09 6:19 PM, "Hadriel Kaplan" <HKaplan@acmepacket.com> wrote: > >> Yeah I?ve been using that template for a while, though it?s >> boilerplate is out of date (I?m not sure any tool can keep up with >> IETF boilerplate changes these days J). >> It?s pretty good, but it still ends up with some quirks, such as >> printing to the generic text printer in XP appends a space char at >> the end of each line, which the ID-submission tool can?t parse >> correctly. >> -hadriel > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> *From:* Henry Sinnreich [mailto:hsinnrei@adobe.com] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:53 PM >> *To:* Mary Barnes; Hadriel Kaplan; Adam Roach >> *Cc:* rai@ietf.org; touch@isi.edu >> *Subject:* Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays > >> MS Word and Windows users can try the ISI online tools developed by >> Joe Touch > >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-touch-msword-template-v2.0-07 > >> http://www.isi.edu/touch/tools/ >> Go to templates > >> I have just done two I-Ds without any problems and believe it > is the >> fastest and most robust to writer?s errors. > >> Henry > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmwOacACgkQE5f5cImnZrtXPwCgr1o4Czc6X6JAKHXYBOzPVQMA oJ8AoM3+y4x7Wex+vHanaNatVtNjYYM8 =NMss -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Adam Roach
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Theo Zourzouvillys
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Tom Taylor
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Joe Touch
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Greg Herlein
- [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Rescorla
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Joe Touch
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Joe Touch
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Eric Burger
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Hadriel Kaplan
- [RAI] Reducing Delays & Running Code Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Pete Cordell
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [RAI] Reducing Delays Fred Baker
- Re: [RAI] Back to the topic : Reducing Delays Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Pete Cordell
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Pete Cordell
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Mary Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Richard Bennett
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Theo Zourzouvillys
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to theto… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Recording Consensus (was: Back to the t… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)