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Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and EPP

Dmitry Belyavsky <beldmit@gmail.com> Mon, 19 October 2020 20:12 UTC

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From: Dmitry Belyavsky <beldmit@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 23:12:29 +0300
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Subject: Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and EPP
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:03 PM Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck=
40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: regext <regext-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Gould, James
> > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:50 PM
> > To: johnl@taugh.com; regext@ietf.org
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and
> EPP
> >
> > John,
> >
> > The signal would be handled via support for an EPP extension XML
> > namespace in option 2, an operational practice XML namespace in what I
> > would call 2b, or most likely a new contact XML namespace (contact-1.1)
> in
> > option 1 for RFC 5733.  The XML namespace would be reflected in the EPP
> > greeting services and login services.
>
> I'm more a fan of using an extension with a new namespace than I am a fan
> of trying to update 5733. An extension would be more easily consumed by
> other extensions that use email addresses vs. having to also update all
> existing extensions that use email addresses.
>

Adding support of an extension is harder than just allowing EAI email
addresses, both for registries and registrars.
Also, we get some fuzziness on implementation level. E.g., can we set ASCII
email via this extension?


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SY, Dmitry Belyavsky

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