Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and EPP

Taras Heichenko <tasic@academ.kiev.ua> Tue, 24 November 2020 07:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and EPP
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> On 24 Nov 2020, at 01:26, Patrick Mevzek <pm@dotandco.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, at 18:12, Taras Heichenko wrote:
>>> This is completely orthogonal to anything related to email addresses.
>>> Long gone are the days when only an email sent was enough to trigger a transfer,
>>> and for good reasons.
>> 
>> I said nothing about only an email address but complete contact 
>> information. Most
>> of our registrars were checking an entire Contact object to identify 
>> the user requesting
>> a transfer to avoid court. 
> 
> I fail to see how this authenticates anything
> (and to be able to do this any registrar needs to be allowed to do contact:info
> on any contact, with a transfer in the future or not, which is surely a privacy
> problem at least, or the data must be public in whois/RDAP which is another privacy
> issue also, besides the fact that in this case anyone can just impersonate anyone
> else by reading the output in this model), but in all cases this is completely
> irrelevant to the discussion in this thread so no real point discussing one specific
> registry policy around transfers, yes they are many out there, none to my knowledge
> relying only on email value being known/available to reply.

Two notes:
- the authinfo field in a Contact object allows opening personal data to only one registrar
- it is not registry policy, it is the registrar's agreement

> 
> If registrars want to compare contact data before even staging a transfer request,
> and can per registry procedures/policies in which they operate,
> then there is no problem regarding EAI: if the customer gives an "internationalized" email
> to the registrar, and the registrar does not handle it, the problem will not be solved
> by anything done at the EPP level, so is completely out of scope here.
> The registrar will have to fix its systems first, and we are back to Mr. Levine point.
> Which is fine if registries want to do that, understanding that in that case some
> registrars may decide not to sell their TLDs, which can be fine or not, but a problem
> for the registry to decide and for which this protocol called EPP can not do anything.

I just wanted to say that if a registrar cannot handle the internationalised email of new
customer it will lose new customers and this situation force it to fix its EPP.

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