Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and EPP
Taras Heichenko <tasic@academ.kiev.ua> Tue, 24 November 2020 07:19 UTC
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Subject: Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and EPP
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> On 24 Nov 2020, at 01:26, Patrick Mevzek <pm@dotandco.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, at 18:12, Taras Heichenko wrote: >>> This is completely orthogonal to anything related to email addresses. >>> Long gone are the days when only an email sent was enough to trigger a transfer, >>> and for good reasons. >> >> I said nothing about only an email address but complete contact >> information. Most >> of our registrars were checking an entire Contact object to identify >> the user requesting >> a transfer to avoid court. > > I fail to see how this authenticates anything > (and to be able to do this any registrar needs to be allowed to do contact:info > on any contact, with a transfer in the future or not, which is surely a privacy > problem at least, or the data must be public in whois/RDAP which is another privacy > issue also, besides the fact that in this case anyone can just impersonate anyone > else by reading the output in this model), but in all cases this is completely > irrelevant to the discussion in this thread so no real point discussing one specific > registry policy around transfers, yes they are many out there, none to my knowledge > relying only on email value being known/available to reply. Two notes: - the authinfo field in a Contact object allows opening personal data to only one registrar - it is not registry policy, it is the registrar's agreement > > If registrars want to compare contact data before even staging a transfer request, > and can per registry procedures/policies in which they operate, > then there is no problem regarding EAI: if the customer gives an "internationalized" email > to the registrar, and the registrar does not handle it, the problem will not be solved > by anything done at the EPP level, so is completely out of scope here. > The registrar will have to fix its systems first, and we are back to Mr. Levine point. > Which is fine if registries want to do that, understanding that in that case some > registrars may decide not to sell their TLDs, which can be fine or not, but a problem > for the registry to decide and for which this protocol called EPP can not do anything. I just wanted to say that if a registrar cannot handle the internationalised email of new customer it will lose new customers and this situation force it to fix its EPP. > > -- > Patrick Mevzek > pm@dotandco.com > > _______________________________________________ > regext mailing list > regext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext -- Taras Heichenko tasic@academ.kiev.ua
- [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and EPP Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Barry Leiba
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Mario Loffredo
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… John Levine
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… John Levine
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Mario Loffredo
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Jiankang Yao
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Klaus Malorny
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Klaus Malorny
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Klaus Malorny
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Mario Loffredo
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Alexander Mayrhofer
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Matthias Pfeifer
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… John Levine
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James