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Re: [rtcweb] [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting TRAM Charter Clarification regardig Milestone 3: TURN server auto-discovery mechanism for enterprise and ISPs

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 26 February 2014 01:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting TRAM Charter Clarification regardig Milestone 3: TURN server auto-discovery mechanism for enterprise and ISPs
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> That said, I think you have pointed out this charter is abysmally
> vague - it does not say what the WG is not going to do. If I
> decided to do BGP for routing updates over TURN it would be
> within the scope of this charter.

Cullen, is it your opinion that a working group is always free to do
anything that's not explicitly forbidden in its charter?

I think that a working group is limited to doing what *is* in its
charter, and we sometimes explicitly forbid things for emphasis.

The TRAM charter says this:

   The work will include the addition of DTLS
   as an additional transport, authentication mechanisms, and
   extensions to TURN and STUN.

I don't think that would support, for example, BGP over TURN.

Barry

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