Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions on which O/A is based
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 14 May 2013 20:45 UTC
Return-Path: <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347B121F8E7C for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 14 May 2013 13:45:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A0y1Q6CO3KAk for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 14 May 2013 13:45:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-ie0-x22a.google.com (mail-ie0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7774021F8F6E for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Tue, 14 May 2013 13:45:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id aq17so2115818iec.1 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Tue, 14 May 2013 13:45:00 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=I+26YESaG+2g4GimqH98aeY7emP7Yh5PC0Mb8yoj9ig=; b=C2fzIQZPSci3qu/pGbA7Sa9H+nR1WqvGrDnqgjrC/tFmVTuUuLjeI5Pedzn7sMhQXd t+P8ay9mOz8ckCK5R8uZ9rZZvqmMe9LSCD9K3TN5jxpXxoXY0YqgESVCDw3zqnhfZvhr I0KP4gPldRlEmkE0tripd9IoMHpDBe0GfZ7a1WDoDgGpZxN7xfnJSS7scWLPKHxrAjKG Eou3QgxxOJGGpCBtc1j19a2UMdE26EAukb0NUcO0+ufO+3DrNvyHbkg3iLkUL+HP0VSO WyaXPupgDxQi8H2N5HtMbELnBaU2gZO9Dwq/Yxkg/lJqxhA18FrqGtScffq1jEJB64RV Zdew==
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.50.117.101 with SMTP id kd5mr3455532igb.12.1368564300036; Tue, 14 May 2013 13:45:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.42.79.73 with HTTP; Tue, 14 May 2013 13:44:59 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <519283AC.9020908@alum.mit.edu>
References: <20130503054601.4639.64651.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <CALe60zAi_Lx3QFCbBQ5aPNkgorJAff0E79jkpbQX1Qt3wf2bzg@mail.gmail.com> <CAOJ7v-1Wk6u7XiYrNVmoqr5Jisu2WRvZpte7hQTOiP8YHUc6hg@mail.gmail.com> <518A1268.8090107@ericsson.com> <01AB1BF5-7ABF-4DD3-A831-3A6C96EA680C@iii.ca> <1447FA0C20ED5147A1AA0EF02890A64B1C2C818F@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> <518E7700.1080906@alum.mit.edu> <CA+9kkMDXRnfm6Bto4k6SB-FZHYDCfH1HWUZVat3uJmqFUQpXkw@mail.gmail.com> <519283AC.9020908@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:44:59 -0700
Message-ID: <CA+9kkMA5X9eaC=-FH2FoB6dEhZF0p-nn=LWRr9h0_-5kaUOSuw@mail.gmail.com>
From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
To: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e011826f8f50b3c04dcb3b4c6"
Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions on which O/A is based
X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list <rtcweb.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb>
List-Post: <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 20:45:01 -0000
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>wrote: Certainly. If the web server supporting the browser I assume by this you meant the javascript application; it's possible for the web server to support the CLUE semantics but a particular client not to (e.g. a mobile client connecting to the server). > does't support clue then this isn't going to result in a clue call. But > that would only come up for *received* calls, and receiving such a call via > rtcweb depends on having an app that is at least addressable by a clue > client. That means it must have a sip address. If so, then at least it will > probably be able to connect as a "legacy" sip device. > > So, just to confirm my understanding, in this scenario, the webrtc client is sitting in an open screen somewhere, connected to a web server (it could be headless, but bare with me). When a CLUE conference starts that the webserver believes is of interest to the webrtc client it uses the existing connection to notify it and give it conference details. Is that right so far? If that is the case, I'm not sure what you mean by "must have a SIP address". Can you clarify this? My concern it that it be *possible* to do this with rtcweb, preferably > obscure gateway code. > > I'm assuming that a "without" is missing here, but can you confirm? regards, Ted > Thanks, > Paul > >
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Christer Holmberg
- [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] Fwd: New Version Notificati… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] Fwd: New Version Notificati… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] Fwd: New Version Notificati… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] Fwd: New Version Notificati… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] Fwd: New Version Notificati… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] New Version Notification fo… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] New Version Notification fo… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Eric Rescorla
- [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions on … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Paul Kyzivat
- [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SSRCs … Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Emil Ivov
- [rtcweb] Common ways of handling video conference… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Common ways of handling video confer… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Common ways of handling video confer… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Common ways of handling video confer… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Common ways of handling video confer… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Iñaki Baz Castillo