Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan-00.txt
Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com> Tue, 07 May 2013 10:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan-00.txt
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On 2013-05-06 16:19, Harald Alvestrand wrote: > Note - I regard the Plan A / Plan B conflict as the "long end of the > pole" with regards to resolving issues regarding SDP signalling in > RTCWEB - and as such, I regard it as very important to get it resolved. > > The silence on this issue is disquieting. I agree. Thinking out loud: could a meeting (joint mmusic and rtcweb I guess), that has as objective to discuss and decided which Plan to move forward with, be set up? Then there would be concrete deadlines, and most likely things would not stay as quiet. I guess it is a question for the chairs of those groups. > > Harald > > > On 05/03/2013 08:08 AM, Justin Uberti wrote: >> Scribbled down the basic concepts of what I have been referring to as >> "Plan B" - a way to signal multiple MediaStreamTracks in SDP without >> needing a separate m= line for each. >> >> Hopefully this will make discussion of this topic easier. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> >> Date: Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:46 PM >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan-00.txt >> To: Justin Uberti <justin@uberti.name <mailto:justin@uberti.name>> >> >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan-00.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Justin Uberti and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Filename: draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan >> Revision: 00 >> Title: Plan B: a proposal for signaling multiple media >> sources in WebRTC. >> Creation date: 2013-05-03 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Number of pages: 15 >> URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan-00.txt >> Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan >> Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan-00 >> >> >> Abstract: >> This document explains how multiple media sources can be signaled in >> WebRTC using SDP, in a fashion that avoids many common problems and >> provides a simple control surface to the receiver. >> >> >> >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rtcweb mailing list >> rtcweb@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Christer Holmberg
- [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] Fwd: New Version Notificati… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] Fwd: New Version Notificati… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] Fwd: New Version Notificati… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] Fwd: New Version Notificati… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] Fwd: New Version Notificati… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] New Version Notification fo… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] New Version Notification fo… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Eric Rescorla
- [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions on … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Paul Kyzivat
- [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SSRCs … Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] We are moving beyond the assumptions… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] New Version Notification for draft-u… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Emil Ivov
- [rtcweb] Common ways of handling video conference… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Common ways of handling video confer… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Common ways of handling video confer… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Common ways of handling video confer… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Common ways of handling video confer… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] Why requiring pre-announcement of SS… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Iñaki Baz Castillo