RE: discussion on fast notification work
András Császár <Andras.Csaszar@ericsson.com> Thu, 07 July 2011 11:01 UTC
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From: András Császár <Andras.Csaszar@ericsson.com>
To: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:01:36 +0200
Subject: RE: discussion on fast notification work
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Alia, The problem is clear: how to do fast fail-over in IP and LDP with full failure coverage in arbitrary network topologies. Several other ongoing proposals are targeting the same problem (just to mention Not-Via or MRT). So, I think there is consensus that the problem needs solving. Per-hop authentication should minimise the security implications considerably. We have been working on a prototype doing this with SHA256 and we are adding this to the draft now. Cheers, András > -----Original Message----- > From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Alia Atlas > Sent: 2011. július 7. 0:03 > To: John E Drake > Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org > Subject: Re: discussion on fast notification work > > John, > > Absolutely - I have not seen positive comments about this being a > problem that needs solving and have seen concerns about the security > implications. > > I would prefer to have any discussion about it here so that we do not > spend valuable f2f time on this unless there is significant interest. > > Alia > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:53 PM, John E Drake > <jdrake@juniper.net> wrote: > > Alia, > > > > Is it okay for me to say that I think that this is a really > bad idea and that I was glad that interest in it had waned? > > > > Thanks, > > > > John > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > >> Of Alia Atlas > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 1:57 PM > >> To: rtgwg@ietf.org > >> Subject: discussion on fast notification work > >> > >> The last 2 IETFs, we have had discussions about the idea of fast > >> notification, as described in > >> draft-lu-fast-notification-framework, draft-lu-fn-transport-00, and > >> draft-csaszar-ipfrr-fn-00. > >> > >> Since then, I have not seen substantial discussion or > interest on the > >> mailing list. If you are > >> interested in this work, have questions about it, or would > like to see > >> RTGWG continue to discuss it, > >> please send email to this mailing list. I'd like to see this > >> conversation happening here before IETF. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Alia > >> _______________________________________________ > >> rtgwg mailing list > >> rtgwg@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg >
- discussion on fast notification work Alia Atlas
- RE: discussion on fast notification work John E Drake
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Alia Atlas
- RE: discussion on fast notification work Jeff Tantsura
- RE: discussion on fast notification work András Császár
- RE: discussion on fast notification work András Császár
- RE: discussion on fast notification work András Császár
- RE: discussion on fast notification work John E Drake
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Anton Smirnov
- RE: discussion on fast notification work Gábor Sándor Enyedi
- RE: discussion on fast notification work Gábor Sándor Enyedi
- RE: discussion on fast notification work Gábor Sándor Enyedi
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Anton Smirnov
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Alia Atlas
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Curtis Villamizar
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Curtis Villamizar
- RE: discussion on fast notification work András Császár
- RE: discussion on fast notification work András Császár
- RE: discussion on fast notification work András Császár
- RE: discussion on fast notification work András Császár
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Anton Smirnov
- RE: discussion on fast notification work Gábor Sándor Enyedi
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Alia Atlas
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Alia Atlas
- RE: discussion on fast notification work Gábor Sándor Enyedi
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Curtis Villamizar
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Curtis Villamizar
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Curtis Villamizar
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Curtis Villamizar
- RE: discussion on fast notification work Gábor Sándor Enyedi
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Kireeti Kompella
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Curtis Villamizar
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Curtis Villamizar
- RE: discussion on fast notification work András Császár
- Re: discussion on fast notification work Kireeti Kompella
- RE: discussion on fast notification work András Császár
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