Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG
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From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
To: "Jim Guichard (jguichar)" <jguichar@cisco.com>, "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, Zhen Cao <zehn.cao@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 08:41:51 +0200
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How can you judge the support of your suggested position at this stage? What does mean "a lot of support" here?!. As a chair you should not bias the discussion. Cheers, Med >-----Message d'origine----- >De : sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Jim Guichard >(jguichar) >Envoyé : vendredi 28 mars 2014 18:25 >À : Joel M. Halpern; Zhen Cao >Cc : sfc@ietf.org >Objet : Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG > >Thank you Joel. Yes, this is the approach we plan to take and I see a lot >of support for that on the list. > >On 3/28/14, 11:03 AM, "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote: > >>One aspect in the chairs proposal that struck me has particularly useful >>was keeping the use case document for specific partners separate. That >>way, it is MUCH easier to liaise with 3GPP or the BBF on the aspects of >>the use cases that are important to them. >> >>Yours, >>Joel >> >>On 3/28/14, 4:34 AM, Zhen Cao wrote: >>> Dear Chairs, >>> >>> I do not know how we come to this conclusion given the below facts >>> 1) Email discussion on January, >>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sfc/current/msg00966.html, with >>> many supports of moving forward the document draft-liu-sfc-use-cases. >>> >>> 2) London discussion as per >>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/minutes/minutes-89-sfc , where >>> several people voice out that we need one document >>> >>> As for draft-liu-sfc-use-cases, I'd say it is not a simple 'general' >>> use cases write-up, actually it has already merged with one mobility >>> use case from Med, and it also describe the use cases from the >>> abstract point of view, i.e. two angles that try to summarize the >>> existing activities. >>> >>> Technically, one use cases document is much better for people both >>> inside and outside to understand the sfc activities better. The >>> draft-liu-sfc-use-cases serves this target very well. And many use >>> cases are basically the same according the chaining logic, why we need >>> so many... >>> >>> So based on previous discussion both on the list and f2f meeting, I >>> am suggesting that we move forward the general document and consider >>> other documents in meanwhile as they turn out to be significant. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> zhen cao >>> china mobile >>> >>>> That leaves: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-sfc-use-cases/, >>>>a >>>> more general document. But that document includes text on three topics >>>>that >>>> would be covered in more detail elsewhere (broadband, mobile, and DC). >>>>While >>>> this document could contain pointers to the other documents, that >>>>leaves the >>>> document with very little standalone content -- raising the question >>>>of what >>>> should be done with it, or what content it could incorporate in order >>>>to be >>>> worthwhile as a standalone document. >>>> >>>> Thus, the chairs recommendation at this time is: >>>> >>>> 1) Call for WG adoption of draft-haeffner-sfc-use-case-mobility-00.txt >>>>and >>>> draft-kumar-sfc-dc-use-cases-00.txt as WG documents (target: >>>>informational). >>>> >>>> 2) Defer action on draft-liu-service-chaining-use-cases and >>>> draft-meng-sfc-broadband-usecases per the above discussion. >>>> >>>> Does this make sense? >>>> >>>> Jim & Thomas >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sfc mailing list >>>> sfc@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sfc mailing list >>> sfc@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>sfc mailing list >>sfc@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > >_______________________________________________ >sfc mailing list >sfc@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc
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