Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG

[Lucy yong <[e-mail]>]

+1. 

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Subject: Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG

How can you judge the support of your suggested position at this stage? What does mean "a lot of support" here?!. 

As a chair you should not bias the discussion. 

Cheers,
Med

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>De : sfc [mailto:[e-mail]] De la part de Jim Guichard
>(jguichar)
>Envoyé : vendredi 28 mars 2014 18:25
>À : Joel M. Halpern; Zhen Cao
>Cc : [e-mail]
>Objet : Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG
>
>Thank you Joel. Yes, this is the approach we plan to take and I see a 
>lot of support for that on the list.
>
>On 3/28/14, 11:03 AM, "Joel M. Halpern" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>One aspect in the chairs proposal that struck me has particularly 
>>useful was keeping the use case document for specific partners 
>>separate.  That way, it is MUCH easier to liaise with 3GPP or the BBF 
>>on the aspects of the use cases that are important to them.
>>
>>Yours,
>>Joel
>>
>>On 3/28/14, 4:34 AM, Zhen Cao wrote:
>>> Dear Chairs,
>>>
>>> I do not know how we come to this conclusion given the below facts
>>> 1) Email discussion on January,
>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sfc/current/msg00966.html, with 
>>> many supports of moving forward the  document draft-liu-sfc-use-cases.
>>>
>>> 2) London discussion as per
>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/minutes/minutes-89-sfc , where 
>>> several people voice out that we need one document
>>>
>>> As for draft-liu-sfc-use-cases, I'd say it is not a simple 'general'
>>> use cases write-up, actually it has already merged with one mobility 
>>> use case from Med, and it also describe the use cases from the 
>>> abstract point of view, i.e. two angles that try to summarize the 
>>> existing activities.
>>>
>>> Technically, one use cases document is much better for people both 
>>> inside and outside to understand the sfc activities better. The 
>>> draft-liu-sfc-use-cases serves this target very well. And many use 
>>> cases are basically the same according the chaining logic, why we 
>>> need so many...
>>>
>>> So based on previous discussion both on the list and f2f meeting,  I 
>>> am suggesting that we move forward the general document and consider 
>>> other documents in meanwhile as they turn out to be significant.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> zhen cao
>>> china mobile
>>>
>>>> That leaves: 
>>>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-sfc-use-cases/,
>>>>a
>>>> more general document. But that document includes text on three 
>>>>topics that  would be covered in more detail elsewhere (broadband, 
>>>>mobile, and DC).
>>>>While
>>>> this document could contain pointers to the other documents, that 
>>>>leaves the  document with very little standalone content -- raising 
>>>>the question of what  should be done with it, or what content it 
>>>>could incorporate in order to be  worthwhile as a standalone 
>>>>document.
>>>>
>>>> Thus, the chairs recommendation at this time is:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Call for WG adoption of 
>>>>draft-haeffner-sfc-use-case-mobility-00.txt
>>>>and
>>>> draft-kumar-sfc-dc-use-cases-00.txt as WG documents (target:
>>>>informational).
>>>>
>>>> 2) Defer action on draft-liu-service-chaining-use-cases  and 
>>>> draft-meng-sfc-broadband-usecases per the above discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Does this make sense?
>>>>
>>>> Jim & Thomas
>>>>
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