Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG
Zhen Cao <zehn.cao@gmail.com> Tue, 01 April 2014 02:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG
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+ 1 and expecting an answer... On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Lucy yong <lucy.yong@huawei.com> wrote: > +1. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of mohamed.boucadair@orange.com > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:42 AM > To: Jim Guichard (jguichar); Joel M. Halpern; Zhen Cao > Cc: sfc@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG > > How can you judge the support of your suggested position at this stage? What does mean "a lot of support" here?!. > > As a chair you should not bias the discussion. > > Cheers, > Med > >>-----Message d'origine----- >>De : sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Jim Guichard >>(jguichar) >>Envoyé : vendredi 28 mars 2014 18:25 >>À : Joel M. Halpern; Zhen Cao >>Cc : sfc@ietf.org >>Objet : Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG >> >>Thank you Joel. Yes, this is the approach we plan to take and I see a >>lot of support for that on the list. >> >>On 3/28/14, 11:03 AM, "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote: >> >>>One aspect in the chairs proposal that struck me has particularly >>>useful was keeping the use case document for specific partners >>>separate. That way, it is MUCH easier to liaise with 3GPP or the BBF >>>on the aspects of the use cases that are important to them. >>> >>>Yours, >>>Joel >>> >>>On 3/28/14, 4:34 AM, Zhen Cao wrote: >>>> Dear Chairs, >>>> >>>> I do not know how we come to this conclusion given the below facts >>>> 1) Email discussion on January, >>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sfc/current/msg00966.html, with >>>> many supports of moving forward the document draft-liu-sfc-use-cases. >>>> >>>> 2) London discussion as per >>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/minutes/minutes-89-sfc , where >>>> several people voice out that we need one document >>>> >>>> As for draft-liu-sfc-use-cases, I'd say it is not a simple 'general' >>>> use cases write-up, actually it has already merged with one mobility >>>> use case from Med, and it also describe the use cases from the >>>> abstract point of view, i.e. two angles that try to summarize the >>>> existing activities. >>>> >>>> Technically, one use cases document is much better for people both >>>> inside and outside to understand the sfc activities better. The >>>> draft-liu-sfc-use-cases serves this target very well. And many use >>>> cases are basically the same according the chaining logic, why we >>>> need so many... >>>> >>>> So based on previous discussion both on the list and f2f meeting, I >>>> am suggesting that we move forward the general document and consider >>>> other documents in meanwhile as they turn out to be significant. >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> zhen cao >>>> china mobile >>>> >>>>> That leaves: >>>>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-sfc-use-cases/, >>>>>a >>>>> more general document. But that document includes text on three >>>>>topics that would be covered in more detail elsewhere (broadband, >>>>>mobile, and DC). >>>>>While >>>>> this document could contain pointers to the other documents, that >>>>>leaves the document with very little standalone content -- raising >>>>>the question of what should be done with it, or what content it >>>>>could incorporate in order to be worthwhile as a standalone >>>>>document. >>>>> >>>>> Thus, the chairs recommendation at this time is: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Call for WG adoption of >>>>>draft-haeffner-sfc-use-case-mobility-00.txt >>>>>and >>>>> draft-kumar-sfc-dc-use-cases-00.txt as WG documents (target: >>>>>informational). >>>>> >>>>> 2) Defer action on draft-liu-service-chaining-use-cases and >>>>> draft-meng-sfc-broadband-usecases per the above discussion. >>>>> >>>>> Does this make sense? >>>>> >>>>> Jim & Thomas >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sfc mailing list >>>>> sfc@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sfc mailing list >>>> sfc@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >>>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>sfc mailing list >>>sfc@ietf.org >>>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >> >>_______________________________________________ >>sfc mailing list >>sfc@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc
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