Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG
<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Fri, 28 March 2014 15:15 UTC
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From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, Zhen Cao <zehn.cao@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:15:25 +0100
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Joel, What I understood from Jerome's answer is he is OK to cite the liaison document in the generic use case document (+ some text): "JM: And such citation/pointer (+ a few words of context) would become *the* reference for fixed-broadband use cases, removing the need for a specialized I-D in this respect. " There is no need to edit a specific use case document only for the sake to have an IETF stamp on it. I'm sure we can adopt a similar position for the 3GPP case. Cheers, Med >-----Message d'origine----- >De : sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Joel M. Halpern >Envoyé : vendredi 28 mars 2014 16:04 >À : Zhen Cao >Cc : sfc@ietf.org >Objet : Re: [sfc] Progression of use case documents in the SFC WG > >One aspect in the chairs proposal that struck me has particularly useful >was keeping the use case document for specific partners separate. That >way, it is MUCH easier to liaise with 3GPP or the BBF on the aspects of >the use cases that are important to them. > >Yours, >Joel > >On 3/28/14, 4:34 AM, Zhen Cao wrote: >> Dear Chairs, >> >> I do not know how we come to this conclusion given the below facts >> 1) Email discussion on January, >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sfc/current/msg00966.html, with >> many supports of moving forward the document draft-liu-sfc-use-cases. >> >> 2) London discussion as per >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/minutes/minutes-89-sfc , where >> several people voice out that we need one document >> >> As for draft-liu-sfc-use-cases, I'd say it is not a simple 'general' >> use cases write-up, actually it has already merged with one mobility >> use case from Med, and it also describe the use cases from the >> abstract point of view, i.e. two angles that try to summarize the >> existing activities. >> >> Technically, one use cases document is much better for people both >> inside and outside to understand the sfc activities better. The >> draft-liu-sfc-use-cases serves this target very well. And many use >> cases are basically the same according the chaining logic, why we need >> so many... >> >> So based on previous discussion both on the list and f2f meeting, I >> am suggesting that we move forward the general document and consider >> other documents in meanwhile as they turn out to be significant. >> >> Many thanks, >> zhen cao >> china mobile >> >>> That leaves: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-sfc-use-cases/, a >>> more general document. But that document includes text on three topics >that >>> would be covered in more detail elsewhere (broadband, mobile, and DC). >While >>> this document could contain pointers to the other documents, that leaves >the >>> document with very little standalone content -- raising the question of >what >>> should be done with it, or what content it could incorporate in order to >be >>> worthwhile as a standalone document. >>> >>> Thus, the chairs recommendation at this time is: >>> >>> 1) Call for WG adoption of draft-haeffner-sfc-use-case-mobility-00.txt >and >>> draft-kumar-sfc-dc-use-cases-00.txt as WG documents (target: >informational). >>> >>> 2) Defer action on draft-liu-service-chaining-use-cases and >>> draft-meng-sfc-broadband-usecases per the above discussion. >>> >>> Does this make sense? >>> >>> Jim & Thomas >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sfc mailing list >>> sfc@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sfc mailing list >> sfc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >> > >_______________________________________________ >sfc mailing list >sfc@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc
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