Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Fri, 24 January 2014 15:04 UTC

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On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM, George, Wes <wesley.george@twcable.com> wrote:
> I’ve reviewed, it’s mostly ready, minor comments:
>
> I’m not happy with this text in the intro: “issues of business
>    relationship conformance, of which routing 'leaks' are a subset,
>    while quite important to operators (as are many other things), are
>    not security issues per se, and are outside the scope of this
>    document.”
>

Would simply:
"issues of business relationship conformance (of which routing 'leaks'
are a subset), while important to operators, are outside the scope of
this document.”

cover things well enough?

> Let me be clear up front, my issue is *not* that these are declared out of
> scope, since my comments on the threats document seemed to be interpreted
> otherwise.
>
> My issue with this text is the reason it provides as to why they’re
> considered out of scope. I don’t think that it’s entirely accurate to
> assert that route leaks are not security issues. While not all route leaks
> are security issues, some are. It would be more accurate to reflect the
> discussion that led us to the conclusion that we can’t secure them because
> we don’t know what “them” is yet, and are awaiting GROW to define them in
> such a way so that we can evaluate if it’s even possible to secure them in
> this framework. That may be a longer discussion that doesn’t belong in the
> intro, I don’t know.
>

I suspect it is. It somewhat seems like a non-terminating discussion....

W
> Also I think the parenthetical “as are many other things" is unnecessary
> and clunky.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wes
>
>
> On 1/10/14, 8:38 PM, "Chris Morrow" <morrowc@ops-netman.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Working Group Folken,
>>Today starts a WGLC for the subject draft:
>>  <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs>
>>
>>Abstract:
>>   This document describes requirements for a BGP security protocol
>>   design to provide cryptographic assurance that the origin AS had the
>>   right to announce the prefix and to provide assurance of the AS Path
>>   of the announcement.
>>
>>Please have a read-through and send comments at the authors +
>>sidr@ietf.org mailing list.
>>
>>This WGLC completes in 1,209,600 seconds, or 20,160 minutes.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>-chris
>>co-chair
>>
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